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Not sneer, but he is quite boring imo.

 

Yes please. They are shit.

Not even shit in an enjoyable don't have to concentrate kind of way.

 

This is UKRM. It's what we do.

Shape up or **** off.

(Since this is a first respnse to this poster I shall include a "" so as
to not confuse him/her/it)

 

That makes me an idiot too then I'm afraid. I am not attempting to state
that Harry Potter was written for adults, but I also cannot say "I know it's
a bit shit" because I didn't find any of the books shit.

I think it's sad that you seem to dismiss the series when some of you have
only read the first book and others of you haven't read any of them. If I
pick up any series of books I usually plough through all of them before
deciding on whether or not I thought they were a good read. I personally
thought the Phillip Pullman series was disjointed crap, but I did finish
them all before passing comment.

As far as Harry Potter books are concerned I thoroughly enjoyed book 3 "The
Prisoner of Azkaban" I thought the plot was stronger and much darker than
all of the other HP books written so far, the rest of them are a good read
but less disturbing.

There must be a sizeable number of adults interested in reading HP otherwise
I'm sure the adult versions would not have been published. I wonder whether
JK Rowling decided to write a childrens book and then decided on the story,
or whether she thought of the story first and then adjusted it for childrens
reading? (personally I think it was the latter). I haven't read the adult
versions, but I'd be interested to hear how they differ from the kids'
though.

Does the slagging off of Tolkein and his readers start next? Kids books +
adult readers = lazy idiots?

There should be no snobbery in reading, just as there should be no snobbery
in music. We choose our own times to be challenged, moved, aroused,
comforted, humoured etc. Although I personally find some books crap, I do
not judge others harshly because they got something from the book which I
didn't. We react differently to situations because we are individuals, what
then is wrong with reacting differently to books? Idiocy is not something
which should be attributed because of a difference of opinion - that's
individualism.

Steph

 

TERMIE wouldn't show such mercy.

 

hah.

I sent you an email btw Oggers, no doubt disappeared into the
whateversphere, asking you to explain your relation to Sir Tony, ie, why you
seemed to be so into him. Is he a creation of yours? Or is the jury still
out on that?

 

I wouldn't go that far, but there are certainly much better books for
children. The ones I really enjoyed many years ago included Docter
Doolittle and Swallows and Amazons. Also Alan Garner and Alan E Nourse.
Heinlein's kids SF books weren't too bad, either, (better than most of the
crap he wrote for adults). Oh: and Andre Norton.

 

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:32:07 +0100, Lozzo wrote:

That's pathetic. There are loads of discussions on here which are
completely over my head. I don't complain about it, I just don't get
involved in them. If they seem interesting enough I might try and learn a
bit more about the subject.

I'm sure you'd be missed, but if you feel you can't keep up with the
arguments you can always drop out of this thread.

 

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:01:45 +0100, Lozzo wrote:

They're like chicken dippers. My nephew (age four) loves them and I guess
they're tasty enough in a bland sort of way but I'd rather have a decent
curry.

 

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:05:08 +0000, Simian wrote:

That's not a good analogy. Two writers both have access to the full range
of English words.

Yes. But you didn't do that, with the results we have seen.

 

Pah! You're just demonstrating your parochialism, you tartan bimbo. The
Northumbrian small pipes can manage far more complex melodies than the
plaid octopus. They are also better suited to play in concert with other
instruments, as they don't drown everything out.

 

Quite so, (the first part, anyway: I'm trying to keep out of the other bit
for the moment). But that wasn't the argument that Simian made, so he did
nothing but open himself up to spelling flames from burkes.

 

I'm not talking about HP, I'm talking about adults reading children's
fiction.

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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:26:18 +0100, Ian < (really address

Oh no, I've been trying so hard not to get involved, if the literati
diss PP I'm going to seriously doubt their literati credentials. Could
be time to kill the thread.

Which is taking valuable book reading time to wade through.

 

Beats me. But listen to what they can do and it's clear that the
Northumbrain pipes can play much faster, more intricate tunes - even if
you don't like the somewhat reedy tone.

A typical set of pipes has 17 keys, (although some have over 20), and they
can have up to six drones.

 

Heh. I was in bed, reading (an adult book, natch)

Tony's nowt to do with me, I just think he's a bit of a genius.
Though, like the best, a fundamentally flawed genius.

So flawed as to border on the cretinous.

 

Literature and music are arts, which are highly subjective. Hi-fi is
annoying, as up to a point it is purely scientific, but then the
subjective experience of the listener buggers the whole equation.
There is no absolute right or wrong in a discussion of subjective
matters, therefore the whole argument is null and void. Units sold,
however, is another issue, but as someone once said, there's no
accounting for taste. More beer.

 

Ho ho ho.

 

I've never yet believed a woman who said that.

 

Well, I'm not really I was just trying to be brief. I realise that
there's more to language than the words. I could probably have done with
leaving off the last word of that sentence.

Anyway: two writers must surely have equal access to the capabilities of
written English? (Subject to the limits of their talent, of course.)