UKRM Book Club

What's wrong with reading children's books anyway? I'm in the middle
of 'Diddakoi' at the moment, aimed at 9-12 year olds; it's great.

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Colin Irvine says to Simian...

This has already been proven.

 

Nothing. If you're a child.

 

Enlighten me.

 

One typo. FFS. His argument was sound, but you snipped all that and
won't let go of one fucking typo.

 

Fucking hell, you're stupid. The answer is that these are not the
only two options available.

 

Can you not see the snobbery in what you are saying?

 

You're a snob. You're an inverse snob, and you're trying to justify
it.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

He's not dead yet, is he?

Fwiw, I agree with his opinions on the dumbing down of popular culture,
more from the perceived insult inherent in the practice.

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Ben Blaney says...

That didn't look like a typo to me. Take a look at a keyboard, the 'i'
and 'a' keys are miles apart. I was a simple case of bad spelling, in
the same way that dwb uses 'then' for 'than' and others use the phrase
'could of' for 'could have'.

My beef is that Simon makes him self out to be on a much higher
intellectual plane than others, and while he may be an extremely
intelligent, knowledegable and articulate chap, he's as prone to
mistakes as anyone else. It doesn't help that he's so far up his own
arse that he must have trouble walking.

 

OK, let's remember that this is what you posted. Care to read it
again before we continue?

I thought the implication would be enough. Obviously not. There are
good books for adults. It's snot a simple choice between good books
for kids and bad books for adults.

 

But you are. If your shitty newsreader hadn't fucked up the
formatting, it would be quite easy to read what you wrote above,
proving you to be a snob. Possibly a worse snob than the people you
are accussing of snobbery, because they at least can justify their
snobbery (cf Hoggart)

 

Simian says...

Lazy to me means not bothering to mow the lawn at all.

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Reading is an ability. Just because it's not a physical ability
doesn't lessen it.

 

darsy wrote

Apart from the actual content of things like the Sun it is still
reading.

It comes all to easy to the likes of us. Reading Janet and John books at
the age of three months and moving onto War and Peace before the age of
5. Others are not so well endowed and should be encouraged rather than
disparaged.

Far too many of the sentiments I have seen in this thread are elitist
posturing, "ooh I read harder books than you do". Pretentious bolleaux
the lot of it. imho.

 

that's already been answered by Simian, and expanded upon by me -
you'd only want to do so if

i) you're too stupid to understand adult books or
ii) you're being intentionally intellectually lazy or
iii) you've believed the hype

HTH.

 

You said:

That's a preference. It's snobbery.

 

<SNIP examples of writing: one for kids, one for adults (alegedly)>

I don't think that is a very useful argument, because the language and
structure really isn't important: it's the other stuff, the "plot..
concepts, characterization" which determines whether a book is suitable
for any given audience. The words are just the mechanism in which these
things are communicated. If an author can convey complex and original
ideas and characters with simple words, then surely that person should be
lauded for their mastery of their art, not condemned because they didn't
use enough big words. (N.B. I'm not necessarily saying that J K Rowling
acheives this.)

 

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:26:18 +0100, Ian wrote:

Not completely without merit, but grossly over-rated. Frankly, I think HP
is more suitable reading for an adult than Pullman.

 

"definate" for "definite" is a common mis-spelling. I don't think it
detracts from his argument.

While all that *may* be true, it doesn't alter the fact that he
presented a good argument, and you didn't respond except to jump up
and down about his typo.