UKRM - ACPO

www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gBMGyoMsdNN4i1vXtxi0-Xfd9A8g
"The British National Party will capture senior roles on police authorities
if plans to introduce direct elections go ahead, ministers have been
warned."

Could UKRM take control of Plod in a given County, removing all cameras and
speed traps, encouraging high speed riding and banning slow drivers.

Or was the article just bollocks

 

Depends on how good your grass roots political organisation is. A job
for Mr Carley clearly.

http://www.lgcplus.com/News/2008/07/police_authority_direct_elections_predicted.html
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<sniggers>

 

Do you believe that's what people are thinking - that there's not enough
police control?

 

I didnt use the right words, but IMO, the Police do not investigate
low-level crime enough, and the Justice system as a whole doesn't seem
to be working well - (Daily Mail mode) typical headlines of "55
burglaries, yet only gets community service" do not inspire much
confidence.
Then people get fined for doing 35mph in the middle of the night in a 30
zone, and you can see why resentment in both the Police, and the
Government can make people listen to a party that espouses justice and
punishment for offenders.

That the BNP support immigration controls would be a plus point for
many.
I am amazed at times at the attitudes of some people. I sat down for
dinner in a pub on Thursday, (this is in Leicester, apparently the most
'multi-cultural' city in England) and heard a story of a Ticket
Collector on the railway, telling people to get out of 1st class.
He was only doing it, I was told, as he was a "black ba.....". I was
quite shocked to hear this - even if people think this, surely they
wouldnt say it openly in a packed pub, but he did, and felt no shame in
doing it.
Until then, I thought this person was quite alright, but no longer, it
was just embarrassing.
That is someone who would hold such views, so yes, I think many people,
especially white working class do hold such views.

Alan.

 

You mean they spend too much time on high-level crime?

Nothing to do with police control.

Is this common?

Possibly. But "support immigration controls" is such a general term as
to be a meaningless basis for debate.

 

No. One example, a bus shelter not far from me has the glass broken
regularly. I was talking to the man who replaces the glass, asking what
has been done about it. He replied "nothing, the Police cannot
'stake-out' the shelter, and without catching the vandal doing it, they
will take no further action" so it is no longer being reported to the
Police, as they are not bothered.
Minor crimes like this cause problems for many people, as well as a cost
to the Bus Company. It causes resentment for many people as they feel
that the perpetrators should be brought to Justice.

No, but the perception is that the Police=CPS=Judges/Magistrates, they
are all one body who do not care too much about minor crime.
I already said I didnt mean 'Police control', rather a more pro-active
Police, who deal with all crimes, rather than the ones that are easy.

Yes, I think so. Report a burglary, you get a crime number, catching the
culprit is very unlikely. Go through a speed camera at 35mph, you get a
fine.
It doesnt seem a level playing field, hence the Daily Mail and Express
sell thousands of copies every day when they say the same thing.

I dont think the Party are overtly rascist (I may well be wrong, I have
not delved into their aims), but obviously they have some members who
are racist, as well, I presume, as some who are not, but do support
controls on immigration.

Alan.

 

I'll get the trades council on it.

Semi seriously, you probably could get a lot of support for a campaign
to elect right-minded people to police authorities if you did the
legwork. You'd have the Daily Mail on your side, too, if you said it
was anti speed camera.

 

I had a surreal experience while getting a haircut in Maidenhead once.
While chatting with the barber, who was of Pakistani extraction, we got
onto the subject of politics. Can't remember why. Anyway, he started
talking about his mates in the pub, referring to one of them as "and
he's BNP, but he's alright." It struck me as fucking weird that this
bloke had a mate who was openly racist, yet they still regarded each
other as friends.

I was unsurprised to see Maidenhead infested with BNP members when the
list was leaked.

 

I suggest you do.

http://bnp.org.uk/about-us/policies/

The first line is "On current demographic trends, we, the native British
people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty
years."

Even if you ignore that sentence, it doesn't take a genius to see the
difference between what they say and what they mean. Read the web page
above, substitute "white" for "British" and see whether you think
they're overtly rascist (sic).

If you're in any doubt, look at the shadow of Enoch Powell on this:
"immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to
return to their lands of ethnic origin"

 

Isn't this where the current political system has lost its way? We're no
longer offered "right-minded" people, instead we're offered career
politicians who subscribe to one of the mainstream political parties that
have monopolised the corridors of power.