tyres

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Rob Rossall, Jan 10, 2005.

  1. Rob Rossall

    flash Guest

    http://www.motorbikestoday.com/features/Articles/avon_wets.htm
     
    flash, Jan 11, 2005
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  2. Rob Rossall

    Champ Guest

    Race wets use *incredibly* soft/sticky rubber, that works very well at
    low temperatures. They can do this because the water keeps them cool.
    Once it dries out, the temp goes up and they fall to bits. Literally
    - 3 or 4 fast laps on a dry track will totally destroy a set of wets -
    not really what you want on the road, eh?

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    Please add "imo" to above post.
    Champ
    GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
    GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
    Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
     
    Champ, Jan 11, 2005
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  3. Rob Rossall

    flash Guest

    The avons in the article aren't pukka wets, they're road legal tyres with a
    wet pattern.
     
    flash, Jan 11, 2005
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  4. Rob Rossall

    Champ Guest

    And, that "wet pattern" means lots of rubber blocks, all of which move
    slightly and generate heat (another reason that wets stay warm). So,
    when gunning it on dry tarmac, you will heat them more than a more
    normal road tread pattern

    [One of the reasons slicks work so well is that, with no tread,
    there's no blocks to move around, and therefore less heat generated.
    Therefore, you can use a stickier compound]
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    Please add "imo" to above post.
    Champ
    GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
    GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
    Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
     
    Champ, Jan 11, 2005
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  5. Rob Rossall

    Champ Guest

    Yes, but it's not a new idea. In the first UK test of the ZZR1100 by
    Performance Bikes (in 1990), Mark Forsyth said "if any bike should
    come with both slicks and wets, this is it"
    I think the only reason would be a technical one, as you've suggested.
    I also imagine that road tyres go through all sorts of homologation
    bollox that race tyres don't get.

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    Please add "imo" to above post.
    Champ
    GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
    GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
    Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
     
    Champ, Jan 11, 2005
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  6. Rob Rossall

    flash Guest

    I would imagine your insurance company would find plenty of wriggle room.
     
    flash, Jan 11, 2005
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  7. Rob Rossall

    Champ Guest

    And personal friend of yours truly :)
    As the law is applied, then I'd say effectively, no. i.e. any copper
    is just going to check the tread depth. If you were in an accident,
    and the whole JP-accident-investigation caravan arrived, then who
    knows.
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    Please add "imo" to above post.
    Champ
    GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
    GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
    Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
     
    Champ, Jan 11, 2005
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  8. Rob Rossall

    Ace Guest

    Naah, you're completely failing to spot the obvious - you need a spare
    _bike_, exactly the same but with tatty paintwork and wet tyres
    fitted.
     
    Ace, Jan 11, 2005
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  9. Rob Rossall

    WavyDavy Guest

    Standard Diablos are a very good road tyre and not at all bad for the odd
    track day, IMHO. In the dry.

    Spin up like a spinny thing at the fist sign of damp, tho.... At least they
    do on my Daytona 955i.

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Jan 11, 2005
    #29
  10. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember Bear <>
    saying something like:

    I've heard of a few over the years who've been done for using racing
    tyres on the road. JP will know, but istr the catchall used to be 'unfit
    for use' etc.

    Racing tyres are a fair bit flimsier and much less able to cope with
    crappy road surfaces, which adds an element of excitement due to suggen
    deflation, etc.

    As you mention up there (or down there), insurance ramifications might
    be interesting.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 11, 2005
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  11. Rob Rossall

    Lozzo Guest

    Lozzo, Jan 11, 2005
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  12. Rob Rossall

    Muck Guest

    You've got the GPZ500 sorted then? Cool.
     
    Muck, Jan 11, 2005
    #32
  13. Rob Rossall

    Lozzo Guest

    Muck says...
    Not quite, so not so cool. Needs the bottom yoke straightening before I
    refit the forks/wheel and then it's 99% there.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 11, 2005
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  14. Rob Rossall

    Muck Guest

    Getting there. :) I take it, from your tyre choice, it'll be a road
    legal racer?
     
    Muck, Jan 11, 2005
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  15. Rob Rossall

    Lozzo Guest

    Muck says...
    It's being built primarily with track days in mind, but also to be
    thrown into service as my spare road bike. I'm looking to buy a 125 2-
    stroke or 250 4-stroke trailie in the next year as well as a Gixer thou
    by next xmas.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 11, 2005
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  16. Rob Rossall

    Muck Guest

    That's at least 5 bikes, if I've done my counting correctly. I wouldn't
    mind a few more 4 cylinder 250s and maybe a 400, but that's not going to
    happen any time soon. By next Xmas, I hope that I'll be having a break
    from my engineering course.
     
    Muck, Jan 11, 2005
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  17. Rob Rossall

    Lozzo Guest

    Muck says...
    I have 5 bikes at present - ZX-9R, GPZ500 and 3 CB250RSs. As and when
    the GPZ goes back on the road I'll be offering the SOCB250RS, and the
    two spares bikes, up for freebie grabs on here. I want a maximum of 3
    bikes by the end of the year, and all of them have to be running and in
    good nick. Call it a new years resolution.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 11, 2005
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  18. Rob Rossall

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Bear was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    They are a hoot.

    I've currently got a front one on the Husky (combined with a rear
    BT010, natch). That'll be the front superglued to the road
    then[1]. Mind ewe, the rear one (which I've also got) looks rather
    secondhand - it doesn't seem to like the big single.

    Oi likes it, but I'll probably try a set of Maxxis Road compound
    intermediates next.

    [1] Excuse #111 as to why I can't get it to wheelie.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 11, 2005
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  19. Rob Rossall

    Muck Guest

    Well, I didn't even celebrate new year, make any resolutions or
    anything. I think I was watching Cartoon network when new year slid by. :)

    The RS has given you a lot of miles for next to nothing, I'd like to see
    someone that has only had shiny bikes get that.... for a laugh.
     
    Muck, Jan 11, 2005
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  20. Rob Rossall

    Lozzo Guest

    Muck says...
    Whatever happens to it, it will be given away on the understanding that
    money never changes hands when it moves on. Instead I want a 20 quid
    donation to be made to Riders For Health by whoever the new owner then
    becomes. That's how much and who I gave to when it came into my
    ownership.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 11, 2005
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