Tyres in Sydney - where to buy?

erk.
Moike

<looks at A4 parked outside>
<checks wear on tyres>
<hopes that JL is particularly particular about his tyres>

 

Worry not. He'll figure that out when he finds out
about the gearboxes.



G

 

Cocoa, lots of milk, fairly strong, stir well.

What's everyone else want while the kid's got the notepad and pen in his
hands?

 

I know, see other post where I specifically said it wasn't ! More like a
VFR800 or a trumpy sprint. Sports tourer - somewhat sporty without being
a sports car.

JL

 

I shan't snip it, but I'll put the argument in a single paragraph,
interspersing (sp?) it as a reply is obviously confusing the issue. And
just for the record not intending to offend.

Supersticky (road not slicks) tyres for car in common sporty car sizes -
$350-500 per tyre
Supersticky (road not slicks) tyres for bike in common sports bike sizes
- $280-350

Med wear/med grip tyres for car - ie the Dunlop SP3000's you mention
$200-300 in common sizes for sport touring type car (ie sports pack
dunnydore, falchoon or BumW 5 series
Med wear/med grip tyres for bike in common sports touring bike sizes -
200-300 (ie Dunlop D220)

High wear/low grip tyres for common low end /poverty pack cars (ie entry
level commydoor, magna camry etc) $100-200
High wear/low grip tyres for common low end /poverty pack/ learner bikes
(ie GPX250 etc) $100-200

Cheap shit tyres for cars above(14/15"), and med wear med grip tyres for
small cars (13",14") - 60-120 (refer Bob Jane cattledog et al)
Cheap shit tyres for bikes above, med wear med grip for small bikes ie
posties, $50-100

In other words, comparing durian with durian the smell is pretty much
the same, 4 wheels or two.

Other points:

- Never sugggested I would spend $500 on a rear tyre for the bandit, I
don't know of a road legal sticky sports rear in 180/17" that costs more
than 300's (ignoring slicks and similar race tyres)

- My point about you being a noob wasn't a hack at your credibility to
try and cast doubt on your argument. It was trying to raise the point
that the cheap shitty tyres of today are better than some of the more
expensive tyres of yesteryear. Tyres like the D220 which are considered
hard compound touring tyres nowadays would have been considered bloody
good ultra sticky road tyres 15 years ago.

Associated point is that it may not necessarily be the tyre that's
causing your handling woes on the YZR (suspension adjustment, riding
style, tyre pressure, headstem and swing arm bearing condition, etc etc)

- In a similar vein, the Cheng Shin's you cast on the ultra crap tyre
heap are the same Yokohamas that were considered pretty reasonable
sports tyres 10 years ago, now I've no idea whether they've done any
research since, but it's certainly not *my* opinion that they are at the
same level as the bloody dangerous things that were on that Falcon I hired.

- Happy to come and ride your bike (Geez twist my arm , and happy to
try and help resolve handling issues, however there are probably more
knowledgeable people on this news group (I suspect Daron and J5 may add
more value than I will, but hey, I am only just around the corner, so,
name a time)

- 225/45/17's are big wheels on a little car ? Blimey ! Go and have a
look at the Chrysler Crossfire in the car yard on Pac Hwy Chatswood
(it's just around the corner) 285/40/18's are big tyres ! 225's are
about right for a small/med car to not over tyre it.

- 250-350 are not entry level bike tyres, that gets you the best you can
buy (unless prices have gone up dramatically in the last 9 months since
I last bought anything), see above.

- As per other note: Yes, tell me when and I'll take the little Audi out
for a run around Putty with you, no dramas, and yes supersticky tyres
still slide, you just get a lot more corner speed before you do.

JL

 

Med grip sports touring, the model above them (SP9000 I think from
memory) is the supersticky. Bloody good bangs for bucks actually -
better value than the Pirelli and Michelin - only a touch less grip and
about a $100 cheaper.

Yes Iam - give me warnign though, it's in a box full of receipts I
haven't been arsed sorting yet.

Disappointed look.

G'arn, ya know ya want to !!

Of course you can, except it slides at 100+K through a 60K corner
instead of 60K in a 60K like it did with the crappy Falkens.

JL
(the trick is to get it just sliding lightly at the apex and then you
boot it, and being 4wd it just claws its way out - top fun

 

Which is the FWD 1.8 auto isn't it ? Bit of a difference.

<shrug> I wanted a manual all-wheel-drive sedan in a med sized body- the
options were limited - I couldn't afford an S4 (150K plus), WRX's
drivers, umm have a "reputation" shall we say (and insurance sucks 'cos
so many get wadded), which left me with either:
a Subaru Liberty,
a grey import Nissan Skyline (did I mention insurance costs ?),
a Magna VRX or whatever the AWD sports pack is called,
Jaguar Xtype,
And that was about it. Unless you include the cross over 4wd wagon
thingys like the CRV etc which I don't like the looks of. The Ford and
Holden crossovers weren't released back then.

The only thing I don't like about it is the 2.6 is pretty underpowered,
an extra 100-150Hp and it'd be perfect. It handles through windy roads
very nicely, and I've never had a car catch up to me through roads like
the Oxley or the Putty, I've left a few behind as well. It goes OK.

Yeah I am, hell it was salary packaged so the tyres were half price
anyway, but even still, I've always tried to put the best tyres I can
afford on any vehicle I own.

JL

 

Google it - you'll find I already know <grin>

Having learnt to drive on non synchro cars (and having a non synchro
first, early Jag in the garage) I pretty much always rev match when
changing gears, so I'm probably easier on gearboxes than most, having
said that I'm nervously waiting the end of lease at which time I'll flog
it off

JL
(Oct if you want to buy an A4 cheap

 

Spot on. (It's not mine, it's hers. I just get to pay the bills.)

I do hope yours has considerably more sporting pretensions.

When we were shopping, tried out a Saab 900 Turbo. Her indoors nearly
crapped herself when she floored the accelerator. The 1.8 auto Audi is
a much (aaaahhhh...) gentler car.

I had a lot more fun driving the '87 corolla it replaced, but the
comparatively gutless A4 suits what I need from a car. The bike is for
having fun.

I'm hoping that the transmission might last a little better than in the
fire-breathing versions.


Moike

 

Err yes. There's as much difference between the 1.8 FWD and the 2.6
Quattro as there is between the poverty pack Crummydore and a HSV. Sure
they share the physical platform but there's quite a few differences
(suspension, drivetrain, about a 100hp etc etc)

Yeah the 1.8s aren't exactly fire breathing monsters The turbo 1.8
goes pretty well though.

You should be fine, while there is undoubtably truth to it (I know of 2
personally, and a third anecdotally - all after I bought mine of
course), the reality is the little motor doesn't put much stress on,
particularly when driven gently - all the people I know who've done them
in have been, shall we say, "agressive" drivers...

JL

 

Then a Volvo?

Of course you aren't worried about image...

Hammo

 

Nope. Then I'm planning on being down to 1 car and 2 bikes for about 6
months, then the Bandit goes in about January and the Jag and the KR1 go
live with friends for a while while I bugger orf o/s.

<chuckle> Such subtlety ! Yes of course I am, otherwise I'd be driving a
1976 Corolla

JL

 

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dictionary.com knew what it was.

****, you do take this shit seriously, don't you!


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****, you do take this shit seriously, don't you!

You're under the misguided impression that I'm taking any of
this shit seriously! Sheesh, if I was taking the absolute
whipping that I'm getting here seriously, I'd have done a
Gerry days ago!

I took, understood, and agreed with your point. I just chose to
ignore it, 'cos it didn't support the house-of-cards argument
I've been trying to push!

I'm still trying to figure out what an YZR is. Perhaps we're
talking about a YZF?

Bearings, fine. Pressure, fine. Riding style - your grandmother.
etc, etc - no better. Suspension adjustment - adju-what?

Prolly, but it doesn't float the boat I'm trying to launch here.

<pat> you mean arm )</pat>

Nah, fuggoff. It's my bike now.

I know exactly where it is. It's pretty much *exactly* the right
spot to stop for a piss on the way back from the pub in Chatswood
after a big big night.

There's a reason why they put a *Chrysler* yard there. (Note to
friends: don't ever touch the handrails leading up the front
steps there!)

While we're seeing above. I ain't bought any, but I've been
watching the price lists... Not convinced I'm wrong on this point.

Very happy to do that, but I'll be buggered if I'm gonna sit in
the left seat and let you have all the fun. I'll be taking the
mighty Silly Sausage whassname and sliding like a bastard all
over the shop trying to keep up (but grinning like an idiot
trying!)


G, absolutely not taking it seriously.

 

Peanuts I think.

G

 

Truth be known, it was prolly you what brought it up.

Yeah, might be interested. Always wanted to roll a car, just
to find out what it was like. owmuchisit?


G

 

Ahh fuggoff, pedantic cahn.

It's a 80's and 90's 2 stroke 500 for the record, there's a guy called
Rainey who used to ride one. They also released a road legal version.

What pressure ? I found I had to go lower than factory recommended (28
instead of 34) on the TRX when I was running Michelin macadam 90s on it
(touring compound) as I couldn't get the front to heat up enough. They
were still crap tyres compared to the way I rode so I ended up ditching
them.

Someone posted a URL the other day to a good explanation of the basics,
do a search, well worth it. *BUT* make sure you record what you started
at. If you screw it all up you want to be able to put it back

Seriously though it can make a big difference.

OK, willing to be corrected, what's the going rate for a Dunlop D208RR
or Michelin Pilot Race (they're top of the line at the moment aren't
they all you sports bike guys ?)

OK, although I think I'd rather go for a ride But sure.

JL

 

Today ? 24K 'cos the early lease exit penalties suck. In oct 16.5K.

Probably more than what you'd want to pay for a car to destroy I'd
imagine

JL

 

Yeah, things haven't been the same since the demise of the
$10
car. One silly mate made a habit of this, he had up to 8
$10 and
$20 cars in his backyard (the Kombi with the grey motor and
slushbox was $80). It was a great Saturday night's
entertainment
to drive around town looking for a taxi that failed to give
way,
run into it, give a false name, and **** off. One I
remember
particularly was a Chrysler Royal with pushbutton auto, a
stupid
taxi coming from the left failed to stop at a stop sign,
then
propped in our lane; the Royal just about sheared the front
off
it (and we drove it away; he only wanted it for parts for
his
other Royals).

Gary (about 35 years ago; we failed to improve the driving
standard of taxis)

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