Tyre wear?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by ck, Aug 24, 2005.

  1. ck

    ck Guest

    What bike?

    What brand of tyre?

    Don't know of a radial in that sizing.....................though u say it's
    an 'R'.......

    tyre wear is evident you say, yet you also say it is only 56% used

    .......oh yeah - practice your braking
     
    ck, Aug 24, 2005
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  2. G'day, folks.

    Had the new bike for just over a year now, and have clocked up more
    kilometres than one would normally expect in that time (just over 17,000,
    but in my defence I ride to work every day).

    Over that period/distance, rear tyre wear has now become evident, though
    not quite to the extent that it should be replaced - I figure at the present
    rate it'll likely last me over 30,000km before needing to be replaced.

    Just thought I'd ask here for others' experiences; how many kilometres
    do you on average get from a rear tyre? No burnouts or anything stupid
    (though I have on a few occasions locked the rear wheel briefly in drastic
    situations). FYI, it's a 140/90R16.

    - Bob.
     
    Bob Milutinovic, Aug 24, 2005
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  3. Pharque that was quick, CK!
    Kwaka Vulcan 800
    It's a Bridgestone Exedra G702, with a stamp near the rim bead saying
    "tube type."
    Sorry, I didn't bother checking/reading/researching to determine if the
    the tyre was actually a radial; my use of the "R" was instinctive.
    Evident to the extent that the eye can easily determine that it's not a
    new tyre, not to the extent that replacement should be contemplated. For
    your reference, you can see a snapshop I've just taken at
    http://mates.net.au/24-08-05_1310r.jpg - sorry about the image quality;
    'twas done with a mobile 'phone.
    Always do. And though I've never had an uncontrolled lock-up, emergency
    braking has seen the rear wheel lock for the proverbial "split-second"
    before the brain kicked in 'n instructed my right foot to modulate
    accordingly.

    - Bob.
     
    Bob Milutinovic, Aug 24, 2005
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  4. ck

    ck Guest


    uh huh
    uh huh
    More thank likely it is a belted (reinforced) bias ply tyre - 140/90 B 16 -
    77H or something similar
    Take good shots don't they
    good man


    30,000 km would be an extremely high amount

    What is more likely to happen during the second half (or indeed all) of the
    tyre life is a change in the profile due to the wear induced by how/where
    you ride, making it handle a tad odd. You may never get to the TWI's before
    you feel like changing it.

    Having said that, I've also seen tyres that look like shit and must make a
    bike handle like a shopping trolley, yet the punter won't change it until he
    sees canvas.

    Would have thought that style of tyre would have a useful life below
    22-25,000 km, but maybe that particular model is quite a hard compound.

    On that note, how do you find the grip? Are you looking for better, or are
    you looking ultimately for mileage.

    Remember - grip vs mileage is a straight line tradeoff.
     
    ck, Aug 24, 2005
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  5. ck

    tony f Guest

    Bloody! If I get 15,000 from a rear I'm ecstatic! My current rear (OEM
    Metzeler on an Aprilia SL1000R (Falco)) has just passed 5,000 kms. If I get
    another 1,000 kms I'll be amazed. I think I managed 17,000 once - on an
    older Ducati 750SS - but the tyre was well bald by then.

    Normally, I expect to get somewhere over 10,000 kms, but less than 15,0000
    kms on a rear tyre. I don't use super sticky sport tyres, but do use sports
    touring - Battleaxe 020s being my most recent tyre of choice.

    Nope, no burnouts, and not too much fanging.

    Tony F
     
    tony f, Aug 24, 2005
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  6. ck

    atec Guest

    The first rear on the R1 with a little track work was about 8x your wear
    rate /(ow)
     
    atec, Aug 24, 2005
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  7. Yep, just Googled. The brand new profile's visible here;
    http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/bridgestone/G702Rear.jpg
    Perfect for what their intent - to make people look sufficiently obscure
    so as to be perceived as reasonably attractive :p
    The "poor man's ABS" in action ;-)
    Yes, that's what I've started to notice. Not very evident yet, but the
    bike feels a bit "sticky" when going over a scored road surface, showing a
    little hesitation before making its way over.
    I've seen that too. And I'd tend to think it's entirely dependant on the
    width of the tread - my previous riding experiences had almost all been with
    "skinny" tyres, and in those instances there was nowhere near as much
    perceivable change in riding dynamics based on tread wear.
    Thanks, that's precisely what I was looking for; a guesstimate
    (hopefully based on experience) of roughly how much life I can expect out of
    the tyre. And yes, based on the observation of handling change with profile
    change, I'd say your estimate would be much more correct than mine.
    I'm actually quite happy with the tyres as-is, unless there's a
    different compound which'll drastically improve the life without
    degenerating grip too much. Being a cruiser, I've never spun (and don't
    think I ever will) the rear wheel from a standing start, and I've yet to
    experience any slippage no matter how hard I corner (within reason - ground
    clearance is pretty pathetic).

    - Bob.
     
    Bob Milutinovic, Aug 24, 2005
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  8. ck

    ck Guest


    I'm so lucky - I get to talk about this shit every day...............


    I was actually implying the reverse - sacrifice a tad of mileage to improve
    grip and confidence.............the predominance of cruisers and Harleys out
    there use a different brand of tyre - and not because they are OEM

    ck
    .......who equates confidence in grip with Linus' blanket.........
     
    ck, Aug 24, 2005
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    Nev.. Guest

    ahhh... the makings of a good pissing contest..

    My second XX travelled just over 42000km in 11 months and consumed 6 1/2 rear
    tyres and 2 1/2 front tyres,

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 24, 2005
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  10. And then Nev got a girlfriend...
     
    lemmiwinks.au, Aug 24, 2005
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  11. ck

    jlittler Guest

    Thats a bit more like what I would expect Nev !

    On a sporty bike I would expect between 5 and 15,000Km from reasonably
    sticky tyres, cruisers with hard tyres, you should get 20,000.

    JL
    (6,000Km on the new Raptor between 29th April and 1st August-ish - and
    haven't had time to ride it for the last 3 weeks :-( Only riding it
    weekends....can't wait for a chance to go away for a weekend again)
     
    jlittler, Aug 24, 2005
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  12. ck

    Will S Guest

    how do you put half a trye on ? good sharp knike and glue ?
     
    Will S, Aug 24, 2005
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  13. Well, if you ever feel like talking about computers, give me a yell 'n
    I'll exhibit the same confidence 'n elation that you do when discussing
    tyres ;-)
    No need for extra stickiness here. Though you do have me intrigued as to
    what particular brand you're alluding to - am I to assume you've
    intentionally left out the name because personal of connections with said
    brand?
    - Bob

    .... Who equates confidence in grip with a well-trained PC muscle ;-)
     
    Bob Milutinovic, Aug 24, 2005
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  14. Ok, I'll dare to stand facing the wind...

    Finally getting a chance after all this time to go on a "longish"
    expedition in a couple of weeks, heading up to Coff's for the weekend.

    Some of us alas don't get as much time/opportunity to tour as we'd like.

    - Bob.
     
    Bob Milutinovic, Aug 24, 2005
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  15. ck

    Nev.. Guest

    no.. then a Mitsubishi Colt did a u-turn right in front of me...

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 24, 2005
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  16. ck

    Dave E Guest


    Lucky you. My XX does no burnouts, not much 'fanging' - depending on your
    definition - and mixes it up between commuting around Sydney and longer
    rides (Syd - Melb etc). In 22,000kms in about 18mths of riding I'm well
    into my 4th rear and 3rd front - almost ready for rear #5.

    Never locked the back wheel. :)

    Cheers,
    Dave ZZR600 => ST2 (stolen) => '03 XX
     
    Dave E, Aug 24, 2005
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  17. ck

    Nev.. Guest

    ummm... I never said I put half an anything on...

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 24, 2005
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  18. ck

    ck Guest


    errr........I'll get back to you....................


    A couple of brands actually when referring to tyres for that style of bike -
    but yes I would be placing myself in the frame of spammer if I mentioned one
    of them...........


    ck
     
    ck, Aug 24, 2005
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  19. ck

    ck Guest

    and you didn't see the obvious signs?
     
    ck, Aug 24, 2005
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  20. ck

    Nev.. Guest

    Nice try grasshopper, but you shouldn't fall in the trap of jumping to too
    many conclusions based on the briefest of descriptions :)

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 24, 2005
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