Tyre pressure monitors

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by VTR250, Jun 22, 2009.

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    VTR250 Guest

    I check my tyres manually once a fortnight. It is, unfortunately, not
    often enough. Does anybody have have experience with (or use) tyre
    pressure monitors?

    BTW - I searched old posts on this one and SmarTire have withdrawn
    from the motorcycle market and 'Tyre Signal' colour-coded caps got a
    bad review.

    I was thinking about http://www.tyredog.zylux.com.au/td4000ax.html
    which retail at about $300, but I'm wondering whether it will provide
    any real value to me. It may be better for track use (?) and end up
    just being excess weight for me to carry around everywhere (63g in
    all) until it stops working.

    Apart from wanting people's opinion on this idea, I've got 2 concerns
    about TyreDog in particular:

    1) It might be designed for fair-weather riders (my only reason for
    thinking that is the display is a key ring, BUT it mustn't get wet!).
    I'm in the market for indestrucible systems only.

    2) The manual says: "Precaution: For alve stem used on Motorcycle,
    please use lock-fixed type, not in rubber made." which is Japlish, but
    I haven't got a clue what for.

    Also, as the sensors are 10g each, I suppose they could affect the
    tyre balance... but seeing as how I can fail to notice a flat tyre,
    that probably won't be a concern for me!
     
    VTR250, Jun 22, 2009
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    Oigster Guest

    Nothing that I know, I have just come back from a 6000k trip up north and
    used them with no problems at all, heard the story about the balance but
    did not note any problems for speeds up to 160ish, tyre wear also seams
    fine..........only prob I can see is they are easy for some light fingered
    bastard to nick.............

    Cheers
    Oigster
     
    Oigster, Jun 22, 2009
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    John Dwyer Guest

    Good quality tyre pressure gauges cost $25 to $50 and seem to be easy to use
    compared to the problems described previously.

    There may be a need for tyre pressure monitoring during motorsport events,
    but then money is almost no object.

    Lesser mortals operate with simpler solutions, for example:-

    * Check your tyre pressures weekly or every 500 km, which ever is sooner.

    * Buy and use your own pressure gauge. You will then have consistency in
    the pressure readings.

    * Have a tyre pump at home so that you can check and adjust the pressures
    when cold.

    John Dwyer
     
    John Dwyer, Jun 22, 2009
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    CrazyCam Guest


    Apparently, the way they work means that they don't fail safe, but
    rather, should the thingy become faulty, it lets all the pressure out of
    your tyre.

    I have no idea how likely they are to fail, having never used them, but
    <shrug> it just seems like an added complication to me.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jun 22, 2009
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    gwd Guest

    [...]

    No. I gave it a passing thought once but then remembered more than 50
    years of driving monitoring tyre pressures by eyeball and tyre
    pressure gauges. I tried to think of an instance where life would have
    been different had I used one of those monitor thingies, but none came
    to mind. I love gadgets as much as the next man, but there are limits.
    So IMHO spend some of the money you save on a good pressure gauge and
    put the rest in the bank. Set up a checking routine using the good
    gauge, and be alert for handling changes or changes to tyre shape that
    might signal trouble. Monitoring systems are OK for those who really
    need them eg racing drivers, heavy equipment operators, the
    military... mere mortals could find them expensive and generally
    counterproductive for reasons given by others in this thread.
    However, as always ymmv, and the decision is yours anyway. At the end
    of the day it boils down to what makes you feel safe and happy.
     
    gwd, Jun 23, 2009
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  6. So check them weekly.....Problem solved
    Next


    Capt. A. L.
     
    Capt.about_lunchtime, Jun 23, 2009
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    xyzzy Guest

    Search this forum for "tyre pressure monitor".

    In 2006, in a thread called "Tyre Pressure Monitors", Learner said
    "I have used the signal valve pressure caps - the ones I used show
    green when first screwed on, and if the pressure drops by a couple of
    PSI, they show red. That's the idea anyway, although I have checked
    my tyre pressures manually several times and found them down 3-4 PSI
    without the red showing. I stopped using them."

    That's the only bad word. I'm not going to buy something that someone
    else has tried and given up with. Better to get it second-hand off
    him!
     
    xyzzy, Jun 23, 2009
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    BT Humble Guest

    2006? You're probably too late to get them off him, he's likely
    already gotten rid of them.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jun 23, 2009
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    F Murtz Guest

    CAUWOT.
     
    F Murtz, Jun 23, 2009
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  10. 2006? You're probably too late to get them off him, he's likely
    already gotten rid of them.


    BTH

    **********************************

    Thrown them in the recycle bin more than likely

    Vut, aside from that, I wonder if it would be possible to adjust the
    pressure rating to show a higher or lower reading before it turned red?
     
    George W Frost, Jun 23, 2009
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    Nev.. Guest

    Jo's F650GS has tyre pressure monitoring stuff integral to the onboard
    computer. When scrolling through the various screens on the dash you
    can see the current front and rear tyre pressures.

    As far as all the technostuff which motorcycle manufacturers can build
    into bikes these days, it's the only really useful piece of technology
    which the trip computer has. Twice now it has alerted. It alerts with
    a red warning light and some icon to identify low pressure on the dash.
    It triggers when the tyre pressure drops down to 30PSI or less. That
    is before the average rider would probably notice the difference in
    pressure, and also before the ignorance leads to premature tyre wear or
    damage or worse.

    I used to think they were probably an excessive gadget in the past, and
    I often go thousands of km between pressure checks on my bike, but
    having twice witnessed it in action, if offered a list of gadget extras
    on a new bike purchase, it is the first box that I would tick.

    Nev..
    '08 DL1000K8
     
    Nev.., Jun 23, 2009
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    F Murtz Guest

    Also WOFTAM
     
    F Murtz, Jun 23, 2009
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    xyzzy Guest

    OK, I'll bite.
    In the second sentence, I used 'him' to refer to the 'someone else' in
    the first sentence. It was a generalisation.

    Also, it might not be too late in this case. For example, I still have
    my L plates from 1996 if anybody wants them! If 'Learner' didn't find
    anyone to hand them on to, they are more likely to be stashed away in
    the back of a cupboard somewhere.
     
    xyzzy, Jun 24, 2009
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    BT Humble Guest

    Speaking of hanging onto things you'll never need again, if anyone
    wants either a GPX250 cylinder head, a GPz750 front mudguard, or a
    pair of front brake disks for a 1987 CBR1000F, I'm your guy.

    (For the price of postage).


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jun 24, 2009
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Yeah... as much as I hate techno-wank that DOES sound like a bloody handy
    device and I could've benefited from it many many times!

    This just reminded me of something: (warning, looooong rambling drunken rant
    ahead!)

    I had my BIGGIE in December 1982 and my recuperation was slow and painful.
    I was really eager to ride my little Ducati 500SL Pantah but I knew my
    limitations so I made a deal with myself that I wouldn't ride it until I
    could get it onto centrestand, so I used to hobble downstairs and practise
    taking it off and onto centrestand while hanging onto the gas-pipe above
    until the day I could do it without the support. (about June or July the
    next year)
    My mates were supporting me ('though they all tried to talk me out of ever
    riding again) and I took Gregg's Z1300 for a lap first because it was a
    little easier to ride than the hard-arse Ducati but my back hurt like
    buggery (*cue chorus) and I finally settled onto the Pantah and with my
    concerned escort set off for Mt Glorious. (It seemed like a good idea at the
    time).
    It was a disaster!
    I was taking two and three bites at every corner and I was running wide and
    panic-braking. I almost killed myself several times and I was in a cold
    sweat when I headed home convinced that I'd lost my nerve and my life as a
    bikie was over.
    I can't convey what this meant to me but I was 23, an almost-cripple, I had
    no job, no (or later; minimal) income, no girlfriend, no parents, no car....
    and now I couldn't ride my bike... the bike I had dreamt about riding every
    day since I'd ploughed it into a paperbark-tree 7 months earlier.
    I was bereft.

    I can't remember why but I asked Howard (who was actually riding with me
    when I fucked-up myself) to take my little Duke for a ride around the block
    and he came back, called me over and then calmly pushed the front Michelin
    M45 to the rim with his thumbs!

    Needless to say my next run up Mt Glorious was FINE FINE FINE and I've been
    riding pretty-much continuously since then.

    Good mates are invaluable!
     
    Knobdoodle, Jun 25, 2009
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    xyzzy Guest

    Do you really mean that? Do you have the TD-4000A-X model? Some of
    the other posts are saying that TPMs in general are worth their
    weight.

    If you just can't get on with it, I'd like to try it out and see if I
    can. If so, I'll buy it off you. You may want to have a think about
    this and either re-decide, or put a date on a decision or something.

    It can be an expensive game buying kit like that on spec.

    PS. My email registered email address doesn't work.
     
    xyzzy, Jun 26, 2009
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    xyzzy Guest

    What do you think is a fair second-hand price? How long have you had
    if for?
     
    xyzzy, Jun 26, 2009
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    theo Guest

    Would you believe $6.95 in K-Mart bicycle section? The Motor section
    had the identical unit for $22.95.

    Theo
     
    theo, Jun 26, 2009
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    theo Guest

    threefiddy ana.

    Theo
     
    theo, Jun 26, 2009
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    GB Guest

    Get a room you two! :-D :)


    GB
     
    GB, Jun 26, 2009
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