Twatty's insurers: they've coughed up

ogden · Aug 13, 2009

Andy said:

I'm not convinced that said database works because I wrote off my
company van and didn't declare it on my bike insurance renewal even
though it specifically asked if I'd been involved in an accident
resulting in a claim.

They didn't come round to my house and dry bum me so obviously it
didn't show up.
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My former insurers (Admiral) didn't give a monkey's chuff about any
accident or claim I'd had on a motorcycle, only what had happened on
four wheels.

Doesnotcompute · Aug 13, 2009

I'm not convinced that said database works because I wrote off my
company van and didn't declare it on my bike insurance renewal even
though it specifically asked if I'd been involved in an accident
resulting in a claim.

They didn't come round to my house and dry bum me so obviously it
didn't show up.
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I had the same when I hedged a company car years ago. The answer is
simple: Because the insurance wasn't in your name.

Crash and claim on your 10r insurance, and then try to insure another
one, you might find a different outcome.

Beav · Aug 13, 2009

ogden said:

Au contraire, I think it's the only part of the letter that's worth
sending.
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Des, is that you?

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Beav · Aug 13, 2009

DozynSleepy said:

You just prompted me to do a web search with "England Police motto "To
Serve and Protect"". I was really looking for some wry comment on how the
Police are getting tied up with paperwork and statistics.

Blow me down if the first hit is some piece about living in a Police
state.

http://c4ss.org/content/551

Search engine must be screwed, but a couple of paragraphs caught my eye.

Imagine yourself, driving down the road. Not fast, not recklessly, just
driving down the road as any normal person would drive to get from Point A
to Point B.

Imagine that as you pass an intersection, you look in the rearview mirror
and see that a police car has turned onto the street behind you. The
police officer isn’t running his siren and passing you on the way to the
scene of some crime. He’s just settling in behind you, driving at the same
speed as you … tailing you.

Are you comforted by the knowledge that the police are out on patrol,
fighting crime? Or do you start to worry — do you get that tight feeling
down in your gut, expecting to be pulled over at any moment for some
offense that you don’t — probably can’t — know you’ve committed?

The latter reaction, Russo said, is a sign that you’re living in a police
state: A society in which you and everyone around you are subject to the
arbitrary whims, and expected to obey the every command, of “law
enforcement personnel.”

Question that came to mind was "Would this be the reaction of a typical
denizen of ukrm ?
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Well I have to say that if I were in Wales, then that'd be my reaction, but
so far, not in England.

Not that I find it comfortable having Plod up my arse, you understand.

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Beav · Aug 13, 2009

ogden said:

I was arrested on suspicion of two recordable offences, so they dook
dabs and swabs. I was only ever charged (and convicted on a guilty plea)
of a non-recordable offence for which samples shouldn't be retained.

Of course, the conviction muddies things a bit, so I can't be arsed to
go on a Mark Thomas style mission to have the samples destroyed and
records deleted.
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Plod have my DNA too. Arrested for suspicion of criminal damage. No charges,
but I've not done anything to retrieve my "gift". I doubt I'd get it anyway.

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Beav · Aug 13, 2009

Nige said:

'not guilty'
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As if that'd work.

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Beav · Aug 13, 2009

Ben said:

What makes you think he'll declare the accident? I doubt it.
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Good point, but the insco won't really need his declaration if it's already
on his record.

They'll simply take him money and refuse to pay out on any claim for not
providing material information.

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Beav · Aug 13, 2009

They didn't come round to my house and dry bum me so obviously it
didn't show up.
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I had the same when I hedged a company car years ago. The answer is
simple: Because the insurance wasn't in your name.

Crash and claim on your 10r insurance, and then try to insure another
one, you might find a different outcome.
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Well I crashed on my Zed 1000 and the wife made a claim for her injuries.
(Nothing finalised yet though, but they're aware of the claim)

My premium actually went down by 8 quid the following year and by another 12
quid this year. Same comany and everyfink.

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geoff · Aug 13, 2009

Beav said:

Plod have my DNA too. Arrested for suspicion of criminal damage. No charges,
but I've not done anything to retrieve my "gift". I doubt I'd get it anyway.
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They are obliged to destroy it if you are not convicted and you request
it - following a case in the european court of human rights recently

Rudy Lacchin · Aug 13, 2009

Beav said:

Des, is that you?
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For goodness sake don't say His name another twice or you'll conjure Him
forth.

Beav · Aug 13, 2009

Ace said:

I presumed, as others seem to be saying, that it wouldn't be that easy
to hide these days. And if he does he must know that he's doing so,
and is therefore committing a further offence each time he does.
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I'm not sure it constitues an offence, but the insco will definitle knock
him back if he ever makes a claim.

But in any event, as I've said many times before, if you want really,
really cheap car insurance then all you need do is lie about
absolutely everything, and become, say, a 55y-o women with a
blemish-free driving record of 30 years, living in the most
crime-free, idyllic, rural backwater in the country, who uses the
small 1.2l hatchback once a week to drive to the local shops.

Sheep, Lamb, etc.
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I wonder how many 55 year old women are called "Twatty" though?

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Beav · Aug 13, 2009

Eddie said:

However, the process of writing it (without sending it), may provide some
kind of catharsis.
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For some obscure reason, I saw "catheter" there....

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DR · Aug 13, 2009

Grimly Curmudgeon posted:

Fair enough. I'm reassured by the knowledge a dangerous criminal will be
speedily apprehended when you next set a foot wrong.
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Where there is crime, there should be punishment. If the two coincide,
that's a happy bonus.

Colin Irvine · Aug 14, 2009

Take a look at the government's response to this, this week, and dream on!
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IIRC the government response has been to instruct police forces to
resist requests to have data removed. That doesn't mean you can't
succeed.

ogden · Aug 14, 2009

Colin said:

IIRC the government response has been to instruct police forces to
resist requests to have data removed. That doesn't mean you can't
succeed.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/19/dna-database-comment

Beav · Aug 14, 2009

Rudy Lacchin said:

For goodness sake don't say His name another twice or you'll conjure Him
forth.
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We're safe for the time being. He'll still be pedalling across the Red Sea.

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Beav · Aug 14, 2009

geoff said:

They are obliged to destroy it if you are not convicted and you request
it - following a case in the european court of human rights recently
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But that'd mean I've got to go to the Plod shop and get into a protracted
discussion with them and I *really* can't be arsed.

Anyway, "I am an innocent man, so I have nothing to fear"

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Colin Irvine · Aug 14, 2009

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/19/dna-database-comment
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Excellent.

Dentist · Aug 14, 2009

Andy Bonwick said:

I'd be more inclined to wait 6 months and then slide over there and
give him a kicking when he least expected it but I can be a bit moody
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Top bloke.

Beav · Aug 14, 2009

Dentist said:

Top bloke.
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But only if he kicks his teeth out.

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