Turning The TW200 Into A Street Bike (Mostly)

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Bill Miller., Aug 9, 2008.

  1. Bill Miller.

    ogden Guest

    Not convinced. Hash is certainly retailed by the part-ounce, but so's a
    nine bar which has to be nudging into wholesale territory. Conversely,
    speed, coke and MDMA are generally retailed by the gram (or kilo if
    you're a city trader or A&R man, natch)
     
    ogden, Aug 14, 2008
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  2. Bill Miller.

    platypus Guest

    <sigh> Whatever happened to "lids"?
     
    platypus, Aug 14, 2008
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  3. Bill Miller.

    ogden Guest

    Fuel. Bike tanks are dinky, there's no point measuring the capacity in
    gallons, and fuel's sold in litres these days anyway.
     
    ogden, Aug 14, 2008
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  4. Bill Miller.

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Yes, that's a good point. We sell in litres, reckon tank capacity in
    litres, but calculate consumption in miles per gallon.
     
    TOG@Toil, Aug 14, 2008
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  5. Bill Miller.

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Check, check, check, check, check.
     
    TOG@Toil, Aug 14, 2008
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  6. Bill Miller.

    antonye Guest

    As per most of the replies, just about everything is in metric;
    bolt sizes, spanner/socket sizes, wear limits, plug gap, ride height,
    etc, etc. The only things that are imperial are those which go
    back too far to change, so things like speed limits and speedo
    readings (mph), fuel economy (mpg) although we still measure fuel
    and fuel tanks sizes in litres[1].

    The other interesting one is wheels - 120/70x17 is a common
    measurement for a front tyre [tire] but it means 120mm wide
    with a 70% aspect ratio on a 17" wheel rim. Go figure.

    [1] I think the switch from selling petrol in (imperial)
    gallons to litres was more of a marketing ploy, as the
    man on the forecourt instantly saw a drop from £1.60 per
    gallon to 35p per litre. Unless you were sharp with the
    mental arithmetic, it was difficult to convert back to
    gallons and know how much (equivalent) you were paying
    to the day before in gallons. This happened during my
    first few years of driving and was well before any
    such directives from the EU, iirc.
     
    antonye, Aug 14, 2008
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  7. Bill Miller.

    ogden Guest

    It's not peculiar, it's just a perfect example of sticking to the letter
    of the law but not the spirit.
     
    ogden, Aug 14, 2008
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  8. Bill Miller.

    TOG@Toil Guest

    At this point it seems fair to introduce you to the Sheddi. They have
    some excellent measurements.

    http://www.uk-rec-sheds.org.uk/faq60.txt
     
    TOG@Toil, Aug 14, 2008
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  9. Bill Miller.

    Malc Guest

    YMYA. I've been known to cut a pice of wood to eg. 130mm by 10 inches
    if that's what it takes to make the measurements round figures.
     
    Malc, Aug 14, 2008
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  10. Bill Miller.

    Ace Guest

    The same conventions, or some of them, still exist in many places in
    mainland europe, some of which have been officially metric for more
    than 200 years.

    Pounds is the one that's perhaps most universal, such that if you
    asked for a half-ppound of chees in France, Germany or Switzerland
    they'd often have no problem realising that you meant 25g. These
    weights have existed for a lot longer than anyone thought of
    standardising them, so in a very real sense, a continental pound _is_
    500g.

    Also worth considering units like the inch, which has it's own name in
    both French and German.

    Oh, hporsepower's another one - officially bike engines are quoted in
    Kw, but we know full well that the only meaningful measure for
    comparison is horsepower. We also know that the "imperial" horsepower
    is not exactly the same as the German one, but again, all three of the
    above languages have their own words for it, and it tends to be the
    main used one, whereas the "metric" unit is only rarely used.

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    Ace, Aug 14, 2008
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  11. Bill Miller.

    platypus Guest

    "desperate measures"
     
    platypus, Aug 14, 2008
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  12. Bill Miller.

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Bloody small cheese portions, then. Expensive, too ;-)

    Oh, yes, the Germans call it PS, don't they? The difference is very
    small, IIRC.
     
    TOG@Toil, Aug 14, 2008
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  13. Bill Miller.

    platypus Guest

    So the Continental Metric Half is actually equivalent to an Imperial
    Twentieth?
     
    platypus, Aug 14, 2008
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  14. Bill Miller.

    Ace Guest

    Damn that sticky zero key!
    Pferdestarke, lit. horsepower. Also an "Official" SI unit, IIRC.
    Certainly a DIN one.

    1 bhp = 1.014 PS
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    Ace, Aug 14, 2008
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  15. platypus said:
    I've got a barn, and I'm not afraid to use it.

    Mutually Assured Decifortnights ?
     
    Richard Robinson, Aug 14, 2008
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  16. Bill Miller.

    sweller Guest

    Italian, Spanish and German machines are all metric - it's just the US
    and ancient British stuff that's non metric.
     
    sweller, Aug 14, 2008
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  17. Bill Miller.

    sweller Guest

    I don't - I still 'visualise' the capacity in gallons. The tank on the
    Guzzi is 5 and the MZ just under 4.
     
    sweller, Aug 14, 2008
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  18. Bill Miller.

    Eddie Guest

    Aye, for some reason I completely forgot that any country other than US,
    UK and Japan made bikes, despite have two Italians in the garage.

    I suspect the early onset of senility.
     
    Eddie, Aug 14, 2008
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  19. Bill Miller.

    sweller Guest

    The UK railway regularly uses chains. Locations are still identified by
    miles and chains.

    80 chains to the mile, 4 rods to the chain.
     
    sweller, Aug 14, 2008
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  20. Bill Miller.

    Ace Guest

    Conversely, I visualise the unit of a gallon as the contents of one of
    the 5l petrol cans in the garage.

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    Ace, Aug 14, 2008
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