Triple headlamps

Are shite, or at lease mine are. I've had to start riding some
stretches of A414 with beam on. I don't *think* this is going to dazzle
anyone as I can see the beam pattern and it really doesn't stretch that far.

I'm intending to nudge the nacelle up a smidge, see if that helps, but I
was wondering if
a) Anyone can remember the 'trick' to get both dipped and beam from both
lights?
b) If any of these 'high brightness' bulbs are actually any good?

TIA
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I went with Osram and I THINK it was these.......

http://www.osram.com/products/automotive/upgrade/silverstar.html

Certainly improved the blackbird. Or yoo could go the HID route?

Mark

 

May need adjustment in the upward direction, then. In fact, if you
can get away with main beam when there are other road users about,
adjustment is definitely called for.

Mind you - it struck me the other evening when I went out into a
squally, soggy world full of whirling leaves and handfuls of hard rain
that dirty nights like that always seem darker somehow, that lights
are less effective as their output seems to be swallowed up. Winter
nights in darker than Summer nights non-shocker, I guess.

There's a wirey thingy, isn't there? A slipping of a relay into a
socket, perhaps.

I used to advocate the fitting of 80/100W bulbs, until I melted the
wiring on the RF. These days I use Osram Silverstar bulbs, which
claim 50% more light from a 55/60W H4, which IME seems to be
justified, and at a tenner a pair are cheap enough to experiment with.
The guys at my local motor factors advocate the Osram over the
comparable Philips product and they sell lots of bulbs.

Is your one of the switchless Triumphs, with dip beam on all the time?
If so, your dip beam bulb may have had enough anyway and you'll
benefit just from a new direct replacement - but I'd stick Silverstars
in there anyway.

 

I switched to high brightness bulbs a while back, and while they are a
bit brighter, if the headlamps are naff I don't think it'll make much
difference. Get 'em both on.

 

Well, judging from the performance of the PIAA spots I've got I'd have
faith in their (expensive) bulbs.

I'd consider adding spots and wiring them to come on with the full beam.

It's fucking great, I've got an HID dip which makes people sometimes
flash lights at me (I've adjusted carefully so it doesn't dazzle and
points to the kerb- these people are just fuckwits).

When people flash their lights at me, I briefly flash back. When people
stick their lights on full beam then I put the two 55W PIAA spots on;
they are really fucking blinding, I'm sure the cunts regret it
immediately; **** them.

It's great, I'm riding around with my finger over the fullbeam switch
saying "make my day" and laughing like a maniac when someone does.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, belched forth and ejected the following:

I do the same with trucks that have proper air horns. The first time I
discovered them was almost the most fun I'd ever had.

 

Catman says...

I haven't tried any brighter bulbs on my bike, but I hear there's a
wiiring fix that can be used, similar to the Aussie mod for Ducati 916s.

Have you asked on T595.net? If they don't know then no-one does.

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You will need:
1 x 8mm ring spanner
2 x relays (Hella 01RA001 / 4RA 940 010-71)

Remove back seat
Remove front seat (use spanner)
Fit relays into empty relay sockets beneath RHS plastic
Ylbmessasid (the reverse of disassembly)

It is said the Hella relays contain a diode or some such and fitting
generic 30A single pole 12v ones can cause battery drain. Your
Triumph dealer and Halfords stock the right part.

Apparently the main beam lens - can't remember which but looks like the RH
lamp to me - is not configured to "lens" the dipped beam in the same way
as the other one, so you might find the beam pattern on dip is not as
tight as your MOT tester might like. I don't get flashed though. Also
there are often pre-whenever left hand switch clusters on ebay, they plug
straight into the loom and allow you to turn it all off. It is probably
possible to do it without removing the petrol tank if you are nimble
fingered.

I would like to know about this also. I am thinking about auxiliaries or
just bigger bulbs - how much drain can the charging system take?

 

Yeah, not too convinced about splashing £350 on a set of lights, but
your point is well made.

C

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Thought so, ta. Odd thing is I'm sure they never used to be that bad,
but nothing has happened to change them AFAIK

I was thinking about this last night. The other thing that seems to
**** everything up is the crud that builds up on the visor. Even if
it's clean when you start after about 20 mins of spray, I find it pretty
murky under there.

That's what I recall, but I was hoping someone could point me at which
socket, and even where said socket may be located

Ahh, I wonder. It is switchless, and that may account for my comment
about it never used to be that bad. OTOH the pattern is still pretty
defined and that seems to be the issue as well IYSWIM. Certainly at
that price it's worth a punt.


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LOL. Sounds like fun.

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Superb. Thanks.

I think I'm going to like my MOT tester, We've already talked about the
can when he did the service. Swears blind he can't see 'not for road
use' on it anywhere, but 'It sounds lovely, sir'

Hmm, interesting. I shall have to consider how much time I'm going to
spend on all this if it is to become a 'toy' IYSWIM

Ahh, so first you help, now you want me to trash *my* charing system?

Thanks for the instructions.
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I put the high brightness ones in the Daytona and it was much better.

 

Cheers

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I've used them on my Duc' - still not bright enough for serious nighttime
ridding, even in summer. 100/80s are a tad brighter (checked with a light meter)
and about as far as I'm prepared to stretch Italian specced wiring..

Hmm, I havent done that since I fitted spotlights on an R80/7. A 130/90
bulb is a big improvement on my K75RT kommuter. It hasn't fried the
alternator in 600 miles, but I have to admit it was still hard to see
last Friday evening (big rain). I'm tempted by a HID - how much brighter
are they really?

 

I'd like to suggest that removing plastics makes this *much* easier.
The relays are held in place with rubber bands. Trying to plug in the
relays without being able to hold the relay was proving impossible. In
all other respects your instructions are impeccable, my thanks

I'll find out tomorrow I spose. Currently there are a couple of old
relays I had lying around in there. I tried wandering down to Halfrauds
for a new H4 and relays. Would have got the bulb, but really couldn't
arsed having been told that they couldn't give me a relay without
vehicle model and year, and then being told they didn't stock them (I
used the 156 for the computer) I know the kid (literally) behind the
counter wasn't really to blame, but FFS this is a totally standard
automotive relay that's been in cars since (at least) 1979....

I *would* have gone to the A1 place round the corner, but he's not open
on Sundays.

If it comes to that, I'll pull the relay next MOT time.

I have the Phillips blue one in one side. It's better than standard,
but that could be because the bulb has been on for three years.
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Jan Wysocki scribbled:

Report in this weeks motoring mag, they bought some aftermarket HID
lights for a car and tested it in an MOT station.

The kit included the HID bulbs and transformers/ballasts to power them.

What it didn't include was the special lenses, headlight cleaning jets
or self levelling gear thats a requirement.

Anyway, due to no lenses, the light scatter was all over the place,
dazzling oncoming motorists, and they actually threw less light where
it should be going than standard bulbs did.

End result is definite MOT failure, less light on the roads, and
blinding every vehicle coming towards you.

 

scribbled:

Properly adjusted HID lights dazzle less than normal halogen ones.

They're also got to be self levelling.

If people are flashing you the self levellings fucked or they're
aftermarket crap jobbies that are blinding people.

Yeah right, they're flashing you cause your lights are correctly
adjusted and not dazzling anyone.

Get a clue and get them sorted.