Travelling in Australia by Motorbike

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Piers Croft, Aug 29, 2004.

  1. Piers Croft

    Piers Croft Guest

    I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my 5
    weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but it is
    very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
    alternative?
     
    Piers Croft, Aug 29, 2004
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  2. Piers Croft

    Boxer Guest

    Buy a bike and then sell it when you leave to go home.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Aug 29, 2004
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  3. In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:35:18 +0100
    Buy one when you get here, and sell it when you leave.

    See http://bikepoint.com.au and http://tradingpost.com.au to get an idea
    of prices.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Aug 29, 2004
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  4. Piers Croft

    Manning Guest

    A few companies offer a guaranteed buy-back scheme:
    try
    www.bikescape.com.au

    (It may not be mentioned on their website but I know they do it).
     
    Manning, Aug 29, 2004
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  5. Eddie Garner (http://www.garnersmotorcycles.com.au/) does buy back
    deals.

    Buy a suitable bike from Eddie and he guarantees to buy it back off
    you when you have finished your holiday.

    He can organise insurance & rego etc and subject to condition you
    should get most of your purchase price returned before you leave
    Australia.

    Good luck.

    Kind regards
    Dave Milligan
     
    Dave Milligan, Aug 30, 2004
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  6. Piers Croft

    James Guest

    Sure can....
    Come to New Zealand instead. Everything cheaper, rental bikes, higher
    octane petrol, accommodation, air fares, more friendly people, real
    mountains
    and scenery within shorter distances. You can even get yourself a job if you
    need it. Almost full employment, so plenty of work with good pay.

    Another important matter is motorcycle insurance. Ours is FAR cheaper than
    Australia's.

    James.
    04 Triumph Rocket III
    Yeahhhhhh....
     
    James, Aug 30, 2004
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  7. Piers Croft

    Robotman Guest

    .....and there's less people in the way to annoy you because the kiwis are
    all over here.

    Robotman.
     
    Robotman, Aug 30, 2004
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  8. This is true.

    Actually Piers, you can tour the East Coast of Australia and New
    Zealand if you have time.

    My small business is all about shipping bikes from Aussie to NZ and
    back over the Summer months. Smart Aussies have figured out that the
    above statements to be correct and are having me ship their bikes
    over. We expect to do 6 shipments over the December to the end of
    March period out of Sydney and Melbourne.

    Have a look at www.getrouted.com.au in a couple of days. It's
    currently being updated.

    Kind regards
    Dave Milligan
     
    Dave Milligan, Aug 30, 2004
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  9. Piers Croft

    James Guest


    Only the useless ones that you are welcome to.
    James
    04 Triumph Rocket III
     
    James, Aug 30, 2004
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  10. Piers Croft

    James Guest




    I suppose you could do it from NZ to Ozz too could you Dave, then he
    couls save money by hiring the bike here.
    If Dave can't I'm sure NZ Express will be pleased to help.
    James
    04 Triumph Rocket III
     
    James, Aug 30, 2004
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  11. Can anyone suggest an alternative?

    no...but here is some other information;

    The Douglas Adams Guide to Australia
    Australia is a very confusing place, taking up a large amount of the
    bottom half of the planet. It is recognisable from orbit because of many
    unusual features, including what at first looks like an enormous bite
    taken out of its southern edge; a wall of sheer cliffs which plunge deep
    into the girting sea.

    Geologists assure us that this is simply an accident of geomorphology
    and plate tectonics, but they still call it the "Great Australian Bight"
    proving that not only are they covering up a more frightening theory,
    but they can't spell either.

    The first of the confusing things about Australia is the status of the
    place. Where other land masses and sovereign lands are classified as
    either continent, island, or country, Australia is considered all three.
    Typically, it is unique in this.

    The second confusing thing about Australia are the animals. They can be
    divided into three categories: Poisonous, Odd, and Sheep.

    It is true that of the 10 most poisonous arachnids on the planet,
    Australia has 9 of them. Actually, it would be more accurate to say that
    of the 9 most poisonous arachnids, Australia has all of them.
    However,there are curiously few snakes, possibly because the spiders
    have killed them all. But even the spiders won't go near the sea. Any
    visitors should be careful to check inside boots (before putting them
    on) under toilet seats (before sitting down) and generally everywhere
    else. A stick is very useful for this task.

    Strangely, it tends to be the second class of animals (the Odd) that are
    more dangerous. The creature that kills the most people each year is the
    common Wombat. It is nearly as ridiculous as its name, and spends its
    life digging holes in the ground, in which it hides. During the night it
    comes out to eat worms and grubs. The wombat kills people in two ways:
    First, the animal is indestructible. Digging holes in the hard
    Australian clay builds muscles that outclass Olympic weightlifters. At
    night, they often wander the roads. Semi-trailers (Road Trains) have hit
    them at high speed, with all 9 wheels on one side, and this merely makes
    them very annoyed. They express this by snorting, glaring, and walking
    away. Alas, to smaller cars, the wombat becomes an asymmetrical
    launching pad, with results that can be imagined, but not adequately
    described.

    The second way the wombat kills people relates to its burrowing
    behaviour. If a person happens to put their hand down a Wombat hole, the
    Wombat will feel the disturbance and think "Ho! My hole is collapsing!"
    at which it will brace its muscled legs and push up against the roof of
    its burrow with incredible force, to prevent its collapse. Any
    unfortunate hand will be crushed, and attempts to withdraw will cause
    the Wombat to simply bear down harder. The unfortunate will then bleed
    to death through their crushed hand as the wombat prevents him from
    seeking assistance. This is considered the third most embarrassing known
    way to die, and Australians don't talk about it much.

    At this point, we would like to mention the Platypus, estranged relative
    of the mammal, which has a duck-bill, otter's tail, webbed feet, lays
    eggs, detects its aquatic prey in the same way as the electric eel, and
    has venomous barbs attached to its hind legs, thus combining all
    'typical' Australian attributes into a single improbable creature.

    The last confusing thing about Australia is the inhabitants. First, a
    short history: Some time around 40,000 years ago, some people arrived in
    boats from the north. They ate all the available food, and lot of them
    died. The ones that survived learned respect for the balance of nature,
    man's proper place in the scheme of things, and spiders. They settled
    in, and spent a lot of the intervening time making up strange stories.

    Then, around 200 years ago, Europeans arrived in boats from the north.
    More accurately, European convicts were sent, with a few deranged and
    stupid people in charge. They tried to plant their crops in Autumn
    (failing to take account of the reversal of the seasons when moving from
    the top half of the planet to the bottom), ate all their food, and a lot
    of them died. About then the sheep arrived, and have been treasured ever
    since.

    It is interesting to note here that the Europeans always consider
    themselves vastly superior to any other race they encounter, since they
    can lie, cheat, steal, and litigate (marks of a civilised culture they
    say) --whereas all the Aboriginals can do is happily survive being left
    in the middle of a vast red-hot desert, equipped with only a stick.

    Eventually, the new lot of people stopped being Europeans on Extended
    Holiday and became Australians. The changes are subtle, but deep, caused
    by the mind-stretching expanses of nothingness and eerie quiet, where a
    person can sit perfectly still and look deep inside themselves to the
    core of their essence, their reasons for being, and the necessity of
    checking inside your boots every morning for fatal surprises. They also
    picked up the most finely tuned sense of irony in the world, and the
    Aboriginal gift for making up stories. Be warned.

    There is also the matter of the beaches. Australian beaches are simply
    the nicest and best in the entire world. Although anyone actually
    venturing into the sea will have to contend with sharks, stinging
    jellyfish, stonefish (a fish which sits on the bottom of the sea,
    pretends to be a rock, and has venomous barbs sticking out of its back
    that will kill just from the pain) and surfboarders.

    However, watching a beach sunset is worth the risk.

    As a result of all this hardship, dirt, thirst, and wombats, you would
    expect Australians to be a dour lot. Instead, they are genial, jolly,
    cheerful and always willing to share a kind word with a stranger, unless
    they are an American.

    Faced with insurmountable odds and impossible problems, they smile
    disarmingly and look for a stick. Major engineering feats have been
    performed with sheets of corrugated iron, string and mud. Alone of all
    the races on earth, they seem to be free from the 'Grass is Greener on
    the other side of the fence' syndrome and roundly proclaim that
    Australia is, in fact, the other side of that fence. They call the land
    "Oz", "Godzone" (a verbal contraction of "God's Own Country") and "Best
    bloody place on earth,bar none, strewth." The irritating thing about
    this is they may be right.

    There are some traps for the unsuspecting traveller, though. Do not
    under any circumstances suggest that the beer is imperfect, unless you
    are comparing it to another kind of Australian beer. Do not wear a
    Hawaiian shirt. Religion and Politics are safe topics of conversation
    (Australians don't care too much about either) but Sport is a minefield.
    The only correct answer to "So, howdya' like our country, eh?" is "Best
    {insert your own regional swear word here} country in the world!".

    It is very likely that, on arriving, some cheerful Australians will
    'adopt' you, and on your first night, and take you to a pub where
    Australian Beer is served. Despite the obvious danger, do not refuse. It
    is a form of initiation rite. You will wake up late the next day with an
    astonishing hangover, a foul-taste in your mouth and wearing strange
    clothes. Your hosts will usually make sure you get home and waive off
    any legal difficulties with "It's his first time in Australia, so we
    took him to the pub.", to which the policeman will sagely nod and close
    his notebook. Be sure to tell the story of these events to every other
    Australian you encounter, adding new embellishments at every stage, and
    noting how strong the beer was. Thus you will be accepted into this
    unique culture.

    Most Australians are now urban dwellers, having discovered the primary
    use of electricity, which is air-conditioning and refrigerators.


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    Typical Australian sayings
    "G'Day!"
    "It's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick."
    "She'll be right."
    "And down from Kosciusko, where the pine clad ridges raise their torn
    and rugged battlements on high,
    where the air is clear is crystal, and the white stars fairly blaze at
    midnight in the cold and frosty sky.
    And where, around the overflow, the reed beds sweep and sway to the
    breezes, and the rolling plains are wide.
    The Man from Snowy River is a household word today, and the stockmen
    tell the story of his ride."

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    Tips to Surviving Australia
    Don't ever put your hand down a hole for any reason whatsoever. We mean it.
    The beer is stronger than you think, regardless of how strong you think
    it is.
    Always carry a stick.
    Air-conditioning.
    Do not attempt to use Australian slang, unless you are a trained
    linguist and good in a fistfight.
    Thick socks.
    Take good maps. Stopping to ask directions only works when there are
    people nearby.
    If you leave the urban areas, carry several litres of water with you at
    all times, or you will die.
    Even in the most embellished stories told by Australians, there is
    always a core of truth that it is unwise to ignore.

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    See Also:

    Deserts: How to die in them
    The Stick: Second most useful thing ever
    Poisonous and Venomous arachnids, insects, animals, trees, shrubs, fish
    and sheep of Australia, volumes 1-42
     
    fulliautomatix, Aug 30, 2004
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  12. Piers Croft

    James Guest


    Hi again Paul.
    It's the open abuse and bullshit that's
    a change from the more friendly less
    ignorant NZ, US, and UK groups.
    James
    04 Triumph Rocket III
     
    James, Aug 30, 2004
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  13. Piers Croft

    James Guest


    Snipped


    Hey Fulli...etc
    That was most informative.
    The poor OP might want to come to NZ now
    and keep away from ozz altogether. *smile*
    James
    04 Triumph Rocket III
     
    James, Aug 30, 2004
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  14. Piers Croft

    Manning Guest

    Aren't Garner's based in Melbourne? Might be a bit out of his way...
     
    Manning, Aug 30, 2004
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  15. Piers Croft

    James Guest

    Thought I'd better warn you Robotman (& others) about those
    Kiwis who live in your country. Watch out they don't
    claim ownership of your foreshore, seabed, lakes, rivers,
    and some of your higher hills, (you don't have mountains)
    as they did here until we kicked their arses over to you.
    Be very careful also that they do not begin threatening
    civil war and demanding ownership of radio and television
    frequencies, and fishing reserves on the high seas around
    Australia. You are welcome to them. Please keep them.
    James
    04 Triumph Rocket III
     
    James, Aug 30, 2004
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  16. In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:35:56 +1200
    rec.moto "more friendly, less ignorant".

    hehehe

    Zebee
    - DoD#605
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Aug 30, 2004
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  17. Piers Croft

    James Guest



    Shhhhhhhh ZB they might be watching. gggrinnn
    James
    04 Triumph Rocket III
     
    James, Aug 30, 2004
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  18. Piers Croft

    Jules Guest

    Hi again Paul.
    I presume your deep seated insecurities and quiet self realisation of
    being the under dog (royalties to BVR paid in full) is also connected
    with your pathological desire for budget priced Korean operators to rise
    up against their Japanese oppressors..

    Or some such shit.
     
    Jules, Aug 30, 2004
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  19. Piers Croft

    Conehead Guest


    Do it faster.
     
    Conehead, Aug 30, 2004
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  20. Arrrh, Yeah, but think of the ride from Melb to Sydney via the Coast
    Rd.

    Whoops!

    Kind regards
    Dave Milligan
     
    Dave Milligan, Aug 30, 2004
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