TPO Insurance...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Dynamic, Oct 13, 2003.

  1. Dynamic

    Dynamic Guest

    I've just been speaking to my mate who is at uni in Leeds. Last week he
    bought a good condition CG125 <Makes Sign of Holy Pushrods> but couldn't get
    insurance quotes below £480 for TPO.

    I know the people I am insured with are good for cheap prices [1] so gave
    him the number.
    He got a quote of £310, which he was well pleased with so he's now insured
    with them. [2]

    The problem is, he has said that the bike is garaged, but apparently the
    lock up he has it in doesn't count, as it's shared between so many students,
    so it isn't secure enough, but he has said it's in a garage to the insurers
    anyway to keep the quote down. His thinking is that if it gets nicked, he
    isn't getting any cash back off them, so why does it matter if it's in a
    garage or not?

    My question is, why do third party only insurers care if the bike is garaged
    or not, and if he runs someone over, can they not pay out since the bike
    isn't kept in an area which they would class as garaged?

    [1] Thankfully[3], I haven't needed to test them on paying out yet.

    [2] Don't know how they are for insurance on bigger bikes, but they do a
    specific 125cc policy that comes out at least a couple of hundred quid below
    everyone else.
    **E-mail me if you want the details**

    [3] That came out as "Thankfukky" first time round, which seems to fit quite
    well.
     
    Dynamic, Oct 13, 2003
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    Ace Guest

    They care bacause if it's nicked or borrowed they're still liable for
    third-party damages if it's involved in an accident. If they can show
    you lied on your proposal they'll certainly try and invalidate the
    policy, but I believe they're still obliged to honour said TP claims.
     
    Ace, Oct 13, 2003
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  3. Dynamic

    K Olley Guest

    If that area is anything like my local area it may have problems with
    theft of small (50 - 125cc) bikes and scooters.



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    Kevin - Basildon
    pushbike (mine)
    CG125 GPZ305 (her's)
    BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23
    OSOS#29
     
    K Olley, Oct 13, 2003
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  4. Dynamic

    AndrewR Guest

    Is it possible, Mr Olley, that you haven't fully grasped the significance of
    Third Party _Only_ insurance schemes?


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    AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas)
    Kawasaki ZX-6R J1
    BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL)
    BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, Keeper of the TFSTR#
    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Oct 13, 2003
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  5. Dynamic

    Timbo Guest

    Not in the UK, they're not. It's the rider/driver that's insured - not the
    vehicle.
     
    Timbo, Oct 13, 2003
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  6. Dynamic

    K Olley Guest

    Yep, forgot that there was something lower that TPFF:)

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    Kevin - Basildon
    pushbike (mine)
    CG125 GPZ305 (her's)
    BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23
    OSOS#29
     
    K Olley, Oct 13, 2003
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  7. Dynamic

    AndrewR Guest

    Third Party Fire and ...

    Frost?

    Fuckers what nick your bike?

    Feft?

    Actually, on the subject, didn't there used to be something even lower than
    TPO where you were only covered against injuries to other people and, if you
    merely bent their motor, they had to get you to cough up for the damage?


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    AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas)
    Kawasaki ZX-6R J1
    BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL)
    BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, Keeper of the TFSTR#
    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Oct 13, 2003
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  8. "Act only", afair. Very very basic Road Traffic Act only cover. Dunno if
    it still exists. Actually, if you're rich enough to be self-insured,
    that's what you'd have, in effect.

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    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
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    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 13, 2003
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  9. Dynamic

    K Olley Guest

    Don't know, I cannot remember hearing anything like that. I know it
    used and may still be possable to drive legally without insurance,
    cannot remember full details but you have to either place or prove
    that you have got a specified amount of money with a government
    department, it is a seriously large sum:-(

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    Kevin - Basildon
    pushbike (mine)
    CG125 GPZ305 (her's)
    BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23
    OSOS#29
     
    K Olley, Oct 13, 2003
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  10. Dynamic

    AndrewR Guest

    I think it used to be half a million quid, although that may have been
    subject to inflation by now.

    What you're basically doing is underwriting yourself.


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    BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL)
    BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, Keeper of the TFSTR#
    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Oct 14, 2003
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  11. Dynamic

    K Olley Guest

    Probably, by the time you add up all the odds and sods on my claim it
    must be approaching at least half that sort of figure and a claim for
    multiple injuries - fatalities or a HGV + written off load would make
    that sort of amount seem very small indeed.


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    Kevin - Basildon
    pushbike (mine)
    CG125 GPZ305 (her's)
    BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23
    OSOS#29
     
    K Olley, Oct 14, 2003
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  12. Dynamic

    Ace Guest

    IANAL, but I think my earlier statement is correct in the UK.
     
    Ace, Oct 14, 2003
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  13. Dynamic

    Oldbloke Guest

    ISTR it was known as "Road Traffic Act" cover when I sold insurance, and was
    the only cover available to extremely well convicted scrotes.

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    Oldbloke

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    Oldbloke, Oct 14, 2003
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