Tories tackle speed camera rules

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by CT, Dec 30, 2003.

  1. CT

    Ben Blaney Guest

    No. Whatever other people "feel", there is still a justification for
    fuel duty.
    You have led us, very nicely, to exactly the point I wanted to make.

    What the fuel blockaders, and the country pikey in your example are
    missing is this: though fuel tax may be higher here than elsewhere,
    income tax rates, and corporation tax rates are lower. So it evens out.

    And anyway, market-state theory (it's the non-interventionists who want
    to lower taxes, remember) would tell the country dweller on a low income
    to move to the city where incomes are higher.
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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  2. Same way you do a working person. Retired people have income after all.

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    eric the brave, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Did you not read my examples?

    And why doesn't your newsreader quote properly?
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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    Chris H Guest

    What subsidies?? ITYF that there are more subsidies going individually
    to the unemployed, Nuclear Power and farming than are going to the
    Defence Industries. Heseltine put paid to the happy old days of 'costs
    plus' contracts. The only 'subsidies' that I'm aware of are the export
    guarantees given to some contracts.

    What's more, as it's a large proportion of the Industry we have left
    and we're already predicted to lose 48,000 manufacturing jobs next
    year, how would you propose to fill the hole in the real wealth
    creation side of the economy (i.e manufacturing)?

    If you could turn swords into plough shears it would be nice.
    Unfortunately, no **** has managed it yet without being thoroughly
    defeated in war first.

    HTH HAND etc
     
    Chris H, Dec 30, 2003
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    AW Guest

    Although the ful protest was not about fuel duty per se, but excessive
    (as perceived) duty.

    Public protest is aways a good way to remind politicans what's what
     
    AW, Dec 30, 2003
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  6. They come over here and get banned on our roads instead...

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    eric the brave, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

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    Bit difficult if they're a farm worker etc to move to the city
    and contribute massively to the overcrowded commuter routes.
    Apart from the fact that having lived in the city I can honestly
    say they're disgusting places not fit for habitation.



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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

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    my point exactly .. they're all cnuts


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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    mups Guest

    <waves>

    It's a bitch of a commute mind.
     
    mups, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

    In
    I'm not saying its easy or perfect but what I am saying is that
    everyones income is at some point accountable.

    Dunno

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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    mups Guest

    Still income, unearned income maybe but still income.
    Still income, the same way commission only people are paid/taxed.
    Why bother with all the hassle of a tax system in that case.
    There will always be people who find ways round laws but that doesn't stop
    them from being good or even bad laws.
     
    mups, Dec 30, 2003
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  13. I'm surprised at you. The concept of tightening ones belt and spending
    less or only at a rate equal to inflation does not apply to the Gov.
    then. The Labour government *borrowing* is at an all time high.
    The system is so inefficient. Local on top of central government all
    wanting to charge. It costs the government 10 [1] times the amount it
    should to so something.
    True enough. That's why council tax goes up by three time the rate of
    inflation every year.

    [1] Out of the air Statistic [2]
    [2] Best type.

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    eric the brave, Dec 30, 2003
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    sweller Guest


    I think your line length is too short.

    In OE, go to Tools > Options > Send Tab > click on the Plain Text
    Settings button on News Setting (at the bottom)

    Then set "Automatically Wrap Text at X Characters, when sending" With X
    between 72 and 76.

    HTH
     
    sweller, Dec 30, 2003
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  15. Nice simplistic view. But a mile away from reality...

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    eric the brave, Dec 30, 2003
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  16. Steve Parry wrote
    Wahay fast roads and cheap thrills are mine all mine I tell you.
     
    steve auvache, Dec 30, 2003
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  17. Ben Blaney wrote
    and you waste your time talking to idiots like that Ben. Their
    standpoint is based upon utter selfishness and nothing you, I, or anyone
    else can do will change it. Save your efforts for someone who has
    values worth challenging.
     
    steve auvache, Dec 30, 2003
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    Chris H Guest

    *Ding*
     
    Chris H, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Did you not read my examples?

    Everyone's income is not necessarily accountable, and not everyone's
    income is simple.
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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