Tories tackle speed camera rules

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by CT, Dec 30, 2003.

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    Steve Parry Guest

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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    That's a nonsensical argument. There is no (real) justification for
    banning motorcycles. There is a (real) justification for fuel duty.
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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  4. Why unfortunately ? :)
     
    Mick Whittingham, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    So how do you fine a retired person?
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

    In
    duty.


    You personally may feel that but others may differ.

    For instance the parent/loved one of a person killed in a
    motorcycle accident may well feel that they're unneccesarily
    dangerous and that they should be banned (I'm not agreeing with
    this I'm just making a point).

    As to excessive Fuel Duty someone living in a very rural part of
    the country with zero public transport and low incomes may feel
    very aggreived at excess fuel duty.


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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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  7. You don't. You let then ride at what ever speed they like.
    [FX] Evil cackle [/FX]
     
    Mick Whittingham, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

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    Well how about we stop paying such massive subsidies to the
    defence industry and accept that we're not a big enough country.
    That should sort out a large hole of any deficit

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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    Stritchy Guest

    You don't suppose it could just be electioneering bollocks?

    <wanders off muttering to self>

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    Stritchy, Dec 30, 2003
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    mups Guest

    No I wouldn't be happy. But a lot of people might be. If they had a
    referendum and the 'people' voted to ban bikes would you accept it because
    the majority agreed?
     
    mups, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

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    I'd protest like feck about it, as I assume most would, but
    ultimately if they were banned what could you do in the end?


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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    sweller Guest


    Strangely, in the case of the Fuel tax protests the Gov't was standing up
    to the people of power and influence, the Barons if you like.... And
    keeping to its election pledges and promises regarding CO emissions.
     
    sweller, Dec 30, 2003
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  13. Very well spotted. The Tories bought in the Gatso. Labour brought in
    safety cameras. They all do the same thing...

    Next.

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    eric the brave, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

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    solution.

    But everyones earnings are reportable via tax and NI offices so
    why is it impractible? The system is Finland seems to work fine
    (no pun intended!)

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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    What about a retired person who has a sizeable stock holding? I'm
    thinking of an ex-CEO of major PLC. Income might not be that great, but
    could have *enormous* dividends through sheer number of shares owned.

    What about a city trader paid in bonuses that might be double or treble
    their basic salary?

    What about a foreigner?

    What about a tax exile with "hidden" accounts?


    There are a million other reasons why this is an impractical solution.
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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  16. It's like this new law that allows someone's car/bike to be confiscated
    after a first warning for being a nuisance on the road. Wheel spins,
    wheelies etc. The car boys will just start nicking cars again...

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    eric the brave, Dec 30, 2003
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    Stritchy Guest

    xxxx billion people a week eat McDonalds burgers - does that make it
    the best food available?
    xxxx billion gallons of Coca Cola are consumed every week - does that
    make it the drink available?

    Quantity does not equate to quality.

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    Stritchy, Dec 30, 2003
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  18. Does that mean that if you are a billionaire, and you fart in public,
    you get beheaded?

    Who's going to follow bill Gates around with a microphone?

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    eric the brave, Dec 30, 2003
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    mups Guest

    Buy a really, *really* cheap GSXR thou and do a lot of track days...
     
    mups, Dec 30, 2003
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    Stritchy Guest

    Nobody asked me!

    How many of the 'UK public' were asked?

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    Stritchy, Dec 30, 2003
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