Tories tackle speed camera rules

So management of the economy, foreign policy, ideological positions,
taxation rates, the future of Education and Health, and lots, lots more
can't entice you to put a cross on a piece of paper once every five
years...

....but speeding fines might?

Sorry, but I find that utterly contemptible.

 

I'm still sitting here open mouthed with disbelief.

 

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yebbut ... it appears that whoever gets into Government they
instantly become lying coniving two faced spin lining twats. All
promises made during campaigns are instantly forgotten which is I
guess why there is so much voter apathy nowadays. Prime example
was when the fuel protests where happening and from various polls
etc most people seemed to be in support of the action being
taken, but the Government, as per usual, just ignored what the
public was saying and asking for.

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Predictably, I don't agree with this.

Don't agree with any of that, either.

Because the public was *wrong*.

 

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Oh I see so what was it now .. about 80% of the UK public were in
support of the cause/action yet that clear majority were wrong
.... hmm some democracy this septic isle has become


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Whoose figures?

People really need to understand how a parliamentary democracy works.

In fact it may be a better idea for people to learn how a modern western
fucking democracy works. Don't go running away with the idea that you
feature that highly in it.

no, I've lost the will to live.

 

Yes.

 

The Older Gentleman wrote: >

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Didn't the Tories intorduce just such a system in t he early 90s? A chum of
mine was fined £625 and awarded 6 points for 72 in a motorway roadworks 50
limit. There were howls of outrage because this and similar punishments
were fitting the offender's income and not the 'crime'.

How would you feel about longer jail sentences for younger people on the
grounds that they can afford more time than older people. Just curious
like.

 

We vote a government in to *run* the country for the next five years. Which
may or may not involve doing things which go against public opinion.

 

You're right. There was a similar system which was revoked because it
started to make those with a bit of cash start to think of the
consequences....

So we returned to the system of fining everyone (say) £50 for a certain
crime. For some an hours wages, others a months income.

I can see this gaining popular support. Unfortunately seriously.

 

It's not disimilar to the Feudal system in many ways, is it? But with
the people in positions of power representing the new nobility.

I mean if you took the dictionary description of democracy it's a system
whereby the majority (rather than the most powerful) of the people are
represented by the those they chose to elect. I can't think of anywhere
that works like that.

 

You have the option to keep the points if you want to. Pikey

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.... and the problem with this is ??? ;o)


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so if they were to decide to ban all motorcycles because they
deemed them unsafe you'd be ok with that 'cos they were voted in
and "We vote a government in to *run* the country for the next
five years. Which may or may not involve doing things which go
against public opinion. " ??



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People talk such crap. The other end of the scale. The more you earn the
more you give back to the governmant in the first place. The more you
speed the more you give the government. It's nothing to do with anything
more than another stealth tax.

I earn nothing. The government funds my drugs habit. I don't have a
license and the car isn't registered...

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It does, rather.

 

Exactly. Higher fines for people with private education. Simply because
their parents can afford it...

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It's missing the point entirely as it is the perception that speed
cams are revenue raisers by another name that is the "problem".

What most people seem to want to see is intelligent siting of cameras
in places where there is a clear need and a move away from the "camera
solves all" approach. Oh, and police in North Wales having to wear
false noses and big dunces hats for winning the "Who's Got The Most
Stupid And Sanctimonious Chief Constable" competition..

 

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you are Canes evil doppelganger and I claim my 5 quid

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As others have pointed out, you seem to have no understanding of
democracy.

But, to take your example: I'm sure that 80% of people would answer
"yes" if asked whether they should pay less duty on fuel. However,
those same people are likely to be pretty fucking quiet when asked who
they shortfall in revenue should be compensated for.

That's the problem with "listening to the people" - the people can't
agree on what they want from one day to the next. One minute it's
"we're over taxed" and the next it's "look at the state of the NHS".
Which is why, as I've said before, populism is a dirty word for anyone
serious about politics.