Tories tackle speed camera rules

Ben Blaney · Dec 30, 2003

sweller said:

A little tune has just popped into my head...

# The factories are closing and the army's full -
# I don't know what I'm going to do
# But I've come to see in the land of the free
# There's only a future for the chosen few
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I've always rather liked
http://www.billybragg.co.uk/releases/albums/internationale/inter3.html

Darren Robinson · Dec 30, 2003

Paul Corfield said:

Goodness me. I thought it was accepted that voting is a hard won right
and should be used. It's one of the few times when you have the
potential to make a change to better society.
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It still feels like farting in a hurricane though. I speak only for
myself here of course.

Steve Uzochukwu · Dec 30, 2003

In

f*cking have to the rests stitched up from FGM
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Are they victims of some sort of oppression or atoning for some sort
of defect in their personality or conduct?

Just asking, like, because I assume its only light hearted
banter.......

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Dan White · Dec 30, 2003

Asthma isn't caused by pollution and people who continue to try and maintain
the myth should be slit from the groin to the throat with a serrated kitchen
knife.
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Would you care to narrow your definition of "pollution" there a bit?

Given time I can dig up dozens of case studies demonstrating Pollution
linked Asthma incidents[1], but it depends on what you consider to be
pollution. Of course, I'm referring to Asthma attacks being *triggered* by
pollution.

A classic one was in a South American country where deaths from Asthma
complications spiked every two weeks. Turned out to be the day a cargo ship
transporting grain was offloaded into silos on the docks. That was enough to
set people off several kilometres away.

[1] Mother being an Asthma consultant.

Hog · Dec 30, 2003

Dan said:

Asthma isn't caused by pollution and people who continue to try and
maintain the myth should be slit from the groin to the throat with a
serrated kitchen knife.
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Would you care to narrow your definition of "pollution" there a bit?

Given time I can dig up dozens of case studies demonstrating Pollution
linked Asthma incidents[1], but it depends on what you consider to be
pollution. Of course, I'm referring to Asthma attacks being
*triggered* by pollution.

A classic one was in a South American country where deaths from Asthma
complications spiked every two weeks. Turned out to be the day a
cargo ship transporting grain was offloaded into silos on the docks.
That was enough to set people off several kilometres away.

[1] Mother being an Asthma consultant.
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It was eventually tied down to a miscreant immune system was it not? I
recall that it was noticed children from rural/agri backgrounds (like me)
didn't suffer from it, ever. There were also entire countries which didn't
have the problem.

The Older Gentleman · Dec 30, 2003

Impaler said:

Is driving quickly
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Crap troll.

Hog · Dec 30, 2003

The said:

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Crap troll.
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yeah

Colin Irvine · Dec 30, 2003

Asthma isn't caused by pollution
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I believe it's exacerbated by it, sometimes considerably

and people who continue to try and maintain
the myth should be slit from the groin to the throat with a serrated kitchen
knife.
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That's a good cure, though.

Let people who use public transport pay for it.
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Fine. But they also pay the price of congestion.

Paul Corfield · Dec 30, 2003

So you support gatso and fines and bans for victimless fun? really?
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don't change the subject and while you're at it please identify where in
my comments to Mr Batey I said any of what you have posed as my
viewpoint.

Sheeeesh!

Paul Corfield · Dec 30, 2003

Asthma isn't caused by pollution and people who continue to try and maintain
the myth should be slit from the groin to the throat with a serrated kitchen
knife.
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so you're a doctor now. You must be the most qualified person in ukrm as
you appear to be the expert on *everything*.

and

Let people who use public transport pay for it.
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Strange I thought almost all people who do use it pay for it via the
farebox given that almost all of it is run at a profit. I am an
honourable exception as I get my local transport free as an employee.

And just to round off the rant I don't wish to hear any fucking bollocks
about how inequitable it is that the poor taxpayer funds some of the
costs of the railways and a tiny fraction of bus services in the
country. That is totally justified public expenditure.

steve auvache · Dec 30, 2003

Champ wrote

What does
the phrase "All time high" mean to you?
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A target for later on in the evening?

Grimly Curmudgeon · Dec 30, 2003

Is driving quickly and thereby increasing your
chances of causing accidents/killing someone
on the road; harmless fun then ?
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This is a bike group, you gimp.

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Ginge · Dec 30, 2003

Colin Irvine said:

Except that many of the public, like me, support high fuel prices -
and we're right.
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I don't, but only because every job I've done has involved me filling
the car up twice a week, minimum, in order to commute.

If I could find a similar job on my doorstep I'd do it, but with IT as
it is I'm not sure that'll happen.

Grimly Curmudgeon · Dec 30, 2003

20 MPH speed limit in residental areas and SPEED cameras allowed to
be camoflaged.

YES ! lets get the road deaths DOWN !
Make it a safer place to ride a bike in too
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Oh **** off, you brainless ****.

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Ginge · Dec 30, 2003

Ben Blaney said:

Nothing's changed, then?
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Untrue. Both work and money are things I pay attention to day to day. I
don't take much of an interest in low-level politics as whilst it
affects me I don't believe I can personally change the situation other
than when I vote.

Ben Blaney · Dec 30, 2003

Ginge said:

Untrue. Both work and money are things I pay attention to day to day. I
don't take much of an interest in low-level politics as whilst it
affects me I don't believe I can personally change the situation other
than when I vote.
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I really don't want to have to go around lobbing smileys all over the
place. So shape up, you lot.

mb · Dec 30, 2003

Impaler said:

Anything damaging the environment should be made more expensive.
Then other cleaner ways to do the same thing are forced
to be economically viable. Like LPG and ultimately H2.
Burn H2 and water is the exhaust.

The tax should be per polutant, and
that means carbon based fuels (like petrol and diesel)
should go UP in price.
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I just heard on telly tonight (Discovery, I think), that cows produce more
pollutants than cars.
Tax the cows!

eric the brave · Dec 30, 2003

Champ said:

You twat - is it the reading or the sums you struggle with? What does
the phrase "All time high" mean to you?

I've cut an pasted the relevant parts of the article to embarrass you.

"Hit by sluggish tax revenues and rampant public spending, Brown
forecast net public borrowing would jump to 37 billion pounds this
fiscal year and 31 billion in 2004/05, up from the 27 and 24 billion
he forecast in his main budget in April.

The new deficit figure is the biggest that the Labour government has
run since coming to power in 1997 and the largest since the 43 billion
pound shortfall run up by the previous Conservative government in the
1994/95 fiscal year.

As a share of the economy, however, the new deficit is smaller,
accounting for 3.4 percent of gross domestic product whereas the
1994/95 one was the equivalent of five percent."

So, it's smaller than the last conservative one, by 6 billion in
absolute terms. But, due to growth in the economy, it's only 2/3rds
the size of the last conservative deficit.
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See post below ...

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eric the brave · Dec 30, 2003

Paul said:

oh so *everyone* is capable of speeding in motorised transport and is
liable to speeding fines. I think *not*.
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However in reality, I think so. Not hard to do 33 mph in a 30 in north
Wales in the summer when the signs are obscured by the vegetation. 33
mph safety is different for vehicle weight for instance. But no, just
slap a gatso in place. Make more money. Reduce the speed limit, that
will catch them out.

The Tories and The Daily Mail would like you to believe that this
affects *everyone* and *all the people* but it *absolutely* does *not*.
It is a cheap and shameful measure that will have adverse consequences
on those who would superficially support it.
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I don't read your Tory propaganda...

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eric the brave · Dec 30, 2003

Champ said:

In fact, a significant minority of people have no access to private
transport whatsover. I imagine that give less than a stuff about
Gatsos.
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But they have relatives, workmates etc that do...

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