Tories tackle speed camera rules

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by CT, Dec 30, 2003.

  1. Paul Corfield, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest



    You said "all time high".
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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    dwb Guest

    Mmm, I wouldn't assume they won't attempt something with motorcycles in the
    shorter rather then longer term.
    This month's Ride has a feature on it in fact. The fatalities are up, the
    politicians have noticed.
     
    dwb, Dec 30, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    Nouveau poor to the left, please.
     
    Pip, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ginge Guest

    I rememeber those years, they were *fantastic*. I was very young, and
    things like work, money, and politics meant nothing to me.
     
    Ginge, Dec 30, 2003
  6. Goodness me. I thought it was accepted that voting is a hard won right
    and should be used. It's one of the few times when you have the
    potential to make a change to better society.

    I will confess to not voting in the London Mayoral election because the
    choice of candidates was truly awful and Labour had completely cocked up
    the whole damn process.

    Oh for heaven's sake. There are far more important issues than that to
    consider.

    An expected response Mr B.
    No they do not. That is just simplistic nonsense that you have
    regurgitated from the "popular press" who have decided in recent years
    to make themselves the party of opposition. Pity we can't vote out the
    owners of newspapers and television companies.
    I'm sorry but I wouldn't even accuse the Tories of doing that and I
    can't stand the Tories. Governments are faced with so many choices and
    rapidly moving events that they are forced to compromise. Sometimes
    their initial proposals are so shit that it is good that they change
    their minds. Often they do things that people vote for and either do
    them badly or they don't claim that the policies are actually working or
    else the electorate have moved onto another issue.
    I'm sorry but the fuel protests were the biggest pile of ill conceived
    shit that I've seen for a long time. The people "organising" them were a
    bunch of twits who could not agree amongst themselves as to what they
    were trying to achieve, why they were doing it and how to organise it.

    The government did absolutely the right thing in taking no damn notice
    of them (at the time). I would love to have seen what all those smug
    apparently self satisfied "members of the public" would have thought
    when the food started to run out, when hospitals started to shut down,
    when their kids couldn't get to school, when granny died because the
    ambulance couldn't get through all the jams at petrol stations. Then
    they'd say "why aren't the government sorting this out?". My answer
    would be "get those fat stupid farmers and lorry drivers back to fucking
    work".

    People voted for the fuel escalator which was introduced by the Tories.
    The subsequent removal of it has meant motoring has become relatively
    cheaper thus further imperilling public transport viability, increasing
    congestion, increasing pollution, putting us at risk of breaking our
    international commitments under the Kyoto agreement, increasing urban
    sprawl, increased risk of asthma in kids etc. People really need to work
    out the consequences for society of taking stupid short sighted selfish
    action that puts a few pence in their pockets today at the cost of
    misery and millions of pounds worth of rectification costs tomorrow.
     
    Paul Corfield, Dec 30, 2003
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Except that many of the public, like me, support high fuel prices -
    and we're right.
     
    Colin Irvine, Dec 30, 2003
  8. Fair enough. I meant it as "all time high" for the present labour gov...


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    eric the brave, Dec 30, 2003
  9. Paul Corfield wrote:

    Dont' under estimate something that effects all the people. More
    important issues do exist. But this one effects everyone...




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    eric the brave, Dec 30, 2003
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    I wish I'd said that.
     
    Colin Irvine, Dec 30, 2003
  11. Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    *sigh*

    And you called me "thick" for taking your statement at face-value,
    rather than taking into account that your poor articulation of your
    thoughts resulted in you saying something other than what you were
    thinking. ffs.
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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    sweller Guest

    If only.
     
    sweller, Dec 30, 2003
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    Hog Guest

    Asthma isn't caused by pollution and people who continue to try and maintain
    the myth should be slit from the groin to the throat with a serrated kitchen
    knife.

    and

    Let people who use public transport pay for it.
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2003
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    sweller Guest


    I remember them too, for the first bit I saw school classes being shown
    how to fill benefit forms.

    The middle bit I saw industry torn asunder whilst rapacious young things
    shat on their social responsibility and communities. But did it with
    good suits and no style.

    The last bit is the future bequeathed to us, individuals without a
    fucking clue as to what democracy is, but know the importance of texting
    the pop idol vote.

    A little tune has just popped into my head...

    # The factories are closing and the army's full -
    # I don't know what I'm going to do
    # But I've come to see in the land of the free
    # There's only a future for the chosen few
     
    sweller, Dec 30, 2003
  16. oh so *everyone* is capable of speeding in motorised transport and is
    liable to speeding fines. I think *not*.

    The Tories and The Daily Mail would like you to believe that this
    affects *everyone* and *all the people* but it *absolutely* does *not*.
    It is a cheap and shameful measure that will have adverse consequences
    on those who would superficially support it.
     
    Paul Corfield, Dec 30, 2003
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    Hog Guest

    Oh? why **** that up too.
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2003
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    Hog Guest

    So you support gatso and fines and bans for victimless fun? really?
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2003
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    Impaler Guest


    Is driving quickly and thereby increasing your
    chances of causing accidents/killing someone
    on the road; harmless fun then ?

    OK on a race track where they are all consenting adults.
    Then the risk is not endangering others.

    I want them to be able to camoflauge speed
    cameras and have more of them AND
    penalty points. And the tax disc should be
    proof of MOT and insurance, not a tax.
    AN admin fee (20 quid a year) is appropriate.

    Anything damaging the environment should be made more expensive.
    Then other cleaner ways to do the same thing are forced
    to be economically viable. Like LPG and ultimately H2.
    Burn H2 and water is the exhaust.

    The tax should be per polutant, and
    that means carbon based fuels (like petrol and diesel)
    should go UP in price.
     
    Impaler, Dec 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Nothing's changed, then?
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 30, 2003
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