Toll Notices

Just received one from the M2 for $12.20 (includes admin charge of $10 ).
The interesting thing is I could most probably fight it and win but is it
worth the hassle. The notice is wrong because it shows the vehicle
classification as "Car".


Now I opened a pass account when I returned from my trip and received this
email

"Transaction completed successfully Thank you for your request to open a
Roam e-PASS account. The lodgement number for your application is xxxxxxxx.
You are now able to travel on Westlink M7 (see roam.com.au) and have the
trips charged to your e-PASS Account"


BUT cant remember receiving a follow up email from roam.com.au. Also I
thought roam covered the M2 as well.......

Fark I hate these pricks

Will_S

 

Will, I don't think I'd be giving it a run for it's money based on that defence. If time, date,
place, reg number etc were in contention then by all means yes, worth a try. But the words "car" or
""bike, "driver" or "rider" are merely clerical errors and suitable adjusted at court, thereby
leaving you in a precarious position with no other defence? I don't think I'd be going to court
over $12.20 anyway.

 

If you have an e-tag or equivalent then just fill in the form that
comes with the notice and fax it back to them and you'll be only
charged the actual toll. BTW are you sure that was the M2 not the M4 ?
M2 is 4.40, M4 is 2.20 ... (there's some sort of weird symmetry there
isn't there ?)

JL

 

I am just your average country bumpkin who has no fking idea about the
tolls. Apparenty there is a toll booth on the M2 where you can pay but I
cant remember seeing it or I assumed that the e pass account I was creating
would pay for it.( I think I am getting that horrible disease where you cant
remember but I cant rememeber its name ) If I had created an etag then that
would work on all tolls but the epass doesnt work on the M2.

Now after ringing the M7 Roam and finding out they charged my credit card
but the M2 is different and wont accept epass according to the roam girl
and M2 bloke I spoke to yet the notice shows that you can pay using your
roam account ????????.

Also we came back the same way so I would assume there is another notice on
the way ?

I guess purchasing an etag may be the way to go .....

 

Well to be honest I'm not sure, but if you go to the RTA website
there's a link there to the various toll roads websites and you can
get the info you want with a bit of hunting and reading.

What I would do though is fill in the form, put your Epass number on
it (I assume they've given you one of some sort - I've never used
that option) and fax it back - given how half arsed they are about
enforcing this stuff that's probably enough to make 'em go away.

I'd also do the passive resistance part of waiting for it to get to a
point where you're either getting a letter from the state govt mob
that enforces debts (SDRO) before paying the $12 but that might
backfire into you have to pay $12 plus some additional fee

Yeah that's what they want you to do

JL

 

From an enquiry email I sent

<start quote>
However, at this stage the Roam e-TAG Device is not recommended for
motorcyclists as the tag is required to be mounted onto a window and is also
a safety issue for the rider.

As you are a Roam e-TAG holder - trips made on the M7 with the Motorcycle
you register to your account will be charged to your account via video
matching. This is where a video image is taken of your number plate and your
account is then charged accordingly. Usually there is a video imaging fee of
75 cents; this fee is being waived for motorcycles.

Additionally, as video matching is only an option for the Westlink M7, if
you use other toll roads, you will be required to pay cash. There is no
estimated time as to when other toll roads will have video matching
facilities unfortunately.
<end quote>

It was funny but they told me ( M2 ) on the phone that I could but it in my
jacket pocket and it would work. I guess its a case of no guarantees. FFS,
the RTA should be in charge of all tolls and have all the relavant
information about all tolls in the one spot and weekly they could transfer
monies due to the owners of the tolls

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:48:20 +1000

The difficulty with jacket pockets is not just they dont' work well
there, but the little buggers tend to split into sharp shards if
thumped hard. Such as being landed on.

Not a high risk, but one you should be able to choose to take, not be
forced to take.

If you have an e-tag then don't bother taking it with you. Make them
spend the money to chase you.

Zebee

 

Agreed I have my motorcycle e-tag registered with all of my bikes
registrations, it sits in my office drawer so as ot to get damaged. In any
case if I ride to the left of the toll booth lane the bike does not register
and no toll is charged.

Boxer

 

With modern technology surely they can figure out a half decent way for
motoebikes to pay for tolls

Anyway will do as you suggest........

 

I got fingered by the RTA for travelling in a bus lane through an etag booth
and I sent this email to the RTA and got a response back!

Sometimes you can't just win!

Dear RTA
I just received a toll notice for crossing the Harbour bridge and not paying
the toll.

I was in the bus lane traveling south on my motorbike (motorbikes are
allowed in bus lanes) When I got to the toll booth there was an e-tag only
payment option (you can not get tags for motorbikes) I could not get off the
bus lane as there was a traffic island between lanes. This left me no option
but to go through the toll gate.



Because you have failed to adequately signpost the lane as e-toll only, and
that you fail to provide an option to pay cash at this lane and that you don't
even have a tag that works for bikes I have been fingered an additional $5.



Please explain why you charge a toll for motorbikes whilst Victoria doesn't
and if you do have to charge a toll for motorbikes why you don't have an
e-tag (after 7 years of operation) for motorbikes and why you don't have an
option to pay cash on this lane.



As a licensed motorbike rider I have the right to use bus lanes, please
explain how I can cross the bridge using the bus lane.



Look forward to your response to:

1:Why NSW bikes have to pay a toll when Vic Roads don't

2:Why you don't have an e-tag for a motorbike after 7 years of operation.

3:Why a motorbike cant use the bus lane to cross the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

4:Why you charged me an additional $5 administration fee to use a bus lane.


I recieved this email back:


Dear Killer,

Thank you for your enquiry.

The Bus lane on the Sydney Harbour Bridge is clearly marked as an E-Toll
lane, meaning vehicles eligible to use a Bus lane require an electronic tag
in order to do so.

Tags will not work with all types of motor cycles, and the RTA is working
with the Motor Council of NSW towards a solution. In the meantime, a tag
fitted to the rider's side of a motorcycle windshield will work but a tag so
fitted may need to be protected from wet weather to ensure the tag continues
to operate.

For weather protection, it is recommended that a silicon sealer be placed by
the user:
· All around the tag casings join;
· All around the join between the tag and the already attached tag bracket;
· Over the small holes on the tag casing that displays the RTA logo.

A tag bracket will need to be fitted to enable the tag to be removed from
the motor cycle windshield. Tag brackets are available from any of the RTA
nominated Motor Registries that service E-Toll. A list of those registries
can be found at the following link:
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/usingroads/etoll/rtaetoll_faqs.html

Tolls are charged on the NSW tollways as although motorcycles have almost no
physical impact on a road, motorcars also have little impact as roads are
designed for large (44 tonne) trucks. Climatic impacts on pavements such as
heat, cold, rain and sunshine should be shared equally by all vehicles.

The tolls charged on the Victorian motorways are determined by a private
company, Citylink, in Victoria if you wish to enquire why they do not charge
tolls I have provided their contact details below:

Citylink
Ph: 132 926
Fax: 03 9920 8676
Web: http://www.citylink.com.au/

The $5 administration fee is not for using a Bus lane, it is for using an
E-Toll lane without an electronic tag present on the vehicle, your toll
notice will have information on how to make a payment of the deferred toll
amount or lodge an objection.

I hope this information has been of some assistance.

Regards,
Jamie
E-Toll Customer Service
Roads and Traffic Authority of NSW

The information contained in this email is subject to change at any time
without notice.

 

No havent killed a Chinaman latley but........might be a good idea, like
theres just so many of them, like just one isnt that many.....maybe if .....

What flight you on tomorrow?

 

"I got fingered"? A good choice of words considering your recent history with The Establishment.
You seem to be clocking up a "run of outs on the board" lately killer; ya kill a Chinaman or
somethin'?

 

Hahahaha, that's right. I have to fly from Maroochy to Sydney to prove you're tough. Hahahaha, ya
clown!