TOG Valuation please.....

TOG (or any other journos).....can you tell me what the going rate would be
for somebody who provides (stunning) pictures with an article? Lemme give
you an example what I mean:

http://www.spete.homeip.net/publish/pubart/artnov03.htm

All the pictures are mine. Also, who holds the copyright and how can I prove
these pictures were taken by me?

Thanks,

 

If you took them then they are your property. Unless you used a regular
camera and have the negatives, I'd guess that proof isn't going to be
easy.

 

Spete wrote

Not a kin tit in sight.

I am disappointed to say the least.

 

Well, I get ukp200/1000.

Pix extra - sometimes not much extra just for illustrating a text piece.

And you have copyright.

 

You hold the copyright unless you signed it away under contract to the
'paper. If you still have the original digital pics (I assume you ask
because they're not film pics?) all you can do is point to the file
dates on the pics on your hard drive or wherever they're stored, and
that's not very conclusive 'cos of possible date fiddling.

Is there some dispute over the copyright or payment?

Digital watermarking would be a good idea for the future...

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Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#16? FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19

 

There's so much a dispute as to: I asked for some of my expenses paid back
as payment so to speak and the journo basically told me to **** off. What
makes things a bit worse is that he's a collegue. This whole experience has
cost *me* about 200 quid so far in loss of earnings. As said, this was a
good experience and especially as I'm in the beginning stages so to speak,
I'm certainly not after earning anything, just part of my costs back. The
guy *is* making money out of it.

Some of his choice words:
'I can pay for someone with a profesional high speed camera that has to
develop the photoes and buy film for different lights and weather. But not
for some digital camera'. Then again, my photos were of sufficient quality
and standard to be used by a large national publication!

'Payback is the glory and excitement of riding with me.' This will be the
point I can tell him to **** right off in a very big fucking cloud of
smoke.

Another thing that irritates me a bit is that the (minimal) cost of the
trackday has been paid by me as well as the diner and breakfast at EOSM. I'm
still waiting for him to pay me back. I'm not the kind of person who begs
for his money, but that as well as the above is indicative of the kind of
person he is.

Ah well, you live and learn eh?

 

He's full of shit. Irrespective of what format you were using, there are
costs to be taken into account.

He's a wanker.

Wow. He sounds like a total egomaniac. And an utter wanker.

The EOSM? He was over in the UK? At the EOSM? What a freeloading bastard
if he let you pick up the tab. Different story entirely if it's a
corporation - it's expected to freeload there, but to blag off a
privated individual is not on.

He's a freeloading, total wanker.

Sure do.

Any way of burning his house down?

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Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#16? FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19

 

Spete wrote

Phrases such as:

"Manzercunt" and "Never trust a journo" and "*always* get it in
writing,"

spring to mind.

 

Hell yeah. Sounds like a right ****.

 

No, you write to the editor of the paper.

 

If you still have the original images then google for an EXIF veiwer that
will show all the image settings. you can ask this to be checked on their
copies

 

and he has declared this additional work that he does to your employer
has he? most companies have rules about working for more than one
employer.

How much is he making? How much upset can you cause to threaten said
income in order than he recompense you your due costs.

And the answer next time is "well he will charge you £x but here is my
business proposal and draft contract that will cost you only £y".

Oh for goodness sake. Kick him off the top of a derbyshire cliff and see
how he enjoys the glory and excitement of plunging to his death.

Well I guess you do. Next time, if there is one, bloody well make sure
your copyright / intellectual property rights are asserted. Perhaps the
Veggie one might be able to give some guidance on the best way to deal
with this sort of problem - barring kicking the living shit of scumbag
"colleagues"?

 

EKS, besides, I don't think our employer really gives a toss as long as we
don't work for another Oil-company.

Not thousands, but that's beside my point. The only thing I was after was
(part of) my expenses back, I've explained to him a few times that I'm not
after earning (yet), this is more of an experience for me, so I factored a
bit of a loss into the picture.

Colleague knows this (i hope), but I think he was trying to make a (very
poor) point.

I will try to avoid a situation like this in the future. I regarded him as a
bit of a friend. He';s been to my house a few times, I've taken him along to
the EOSM. As far as I'm concerned, that's over now.

 

I take it this is the 'Tor Sagen' on the article?

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Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#16? FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19

 

Taken correctly

 

Spete wrote:

Contact the publication direct, they published your images without
permission so they are the ones who must pay up.

They should have made sure the images where OK to print before they
published. In the end, they have to pay you and recover the costs from who
they have paid already.

some info here
http://groups.msn.com/DigitalPhotog...Message=7054&LastModified=4675450176961923612

http://makeashorterlink.com/?U24A546C6

 

**** me sideways. What an arsehole.

Right, get on to the paper, assert your right to copyright, tell them
what you've told us, and demand payment.

 

No need. You automatically have copyright unless you physically sign it
away.

 

No, you write to the editor of a _rival_ paper.

 

Ben wrote

No you send it here where the editors of all the rival papers can see.