Today's demonstration

Should be some prioritization too.

Take the NHS, I wouldn't suggest reduced expenditure. I'd suggest PFI/PPP
out all the FM/equipment provision and let the NHS concentrate entirely on
clinical service delivery. Currently it thinks as much about buildings and
vehicles (and so on) as about treating people (1). The bill is going to be
higher, that's because currently Estate is decaying and equipment is long
overdue for replacement. I think there is a general concensus that we should
have world class healthcare and if it will actually cost 15-20% more than
currently spent, so be it.

Other things we clearly waste vast amounts of tax revenue on.

Pensions, well it should be a completely divergent payment system, nothing
to do with general taxation, and people should pay in at a realistic level
and there should be flexibility of input/return.

Roads, it's crazy that these are built and maintained under general
taxation. VED should provide for *all* these things in a completely diverged
system. Most users would agree to having the best road system in the West
and pay appropriately.

Set fair and equitable competitive tax rates. Fund the essentials fully.
What is left over can be distributed thereafter.

(1) same way that BT woke up and realised being a property owner and fleet
manager had eclipsed Telecoms provision

 

Indeed. What you said was that the Guardian itself was an off-shore
entity. Wrong organisation, wrong crime. Exaggeration.

Indeed. They should have admitted that a sibling organisation had done
the same thing.

 

So you would favour, TOG perhaps to supply Pip's toolkit?

As little as that? And there was me with all the negative vibes flying
around that we were not world class and there was me with all the usual
issues about availability of upcoming quality healthcare panicking about
how long it would take to get there. So good news really. The question
only remains then to say how fast we can fund this. 20% sounds like 20 or
50 year plan territory to me so piss all use asking the mainstream of
political thought to come up with ideas. The Catholics would be good for
this one.

Pensions need to be two things. Adequate and like any good insurance
cover available with all the options from a single source. I seem to
recall that when this here credit crisis started one of the first to cry
out in panic was the private pension funds. I heard no similar panic from
the state. Seems to me the state is better placed to ride out the
uncertainties of the market than any of the experts taking some very nice
bonuses for it so my vote would be that the state should be first in the
google list of pension shops.

You won't get the greens to go with you. Not unless you have lanes for
donkey carts.

amen.

Can we burn the sinners?

 

I've an alternative, might need some fine tuning on the numbers but
here goes...

20K tax free allowance for everyone.

Aditionally no tax on up to 50K of personal savings held in a standard
UK bank or building society savings account.

35% tax on absolutely everything earnt above that, regardless of
whether it's income, dividends, capital gains from selling property,
etc.

One simple tax rule, applied to every individual.

 

The problem with that system is its unafordable to a large proportion
of the population .

 

I think it is a little early in the discussion of the complete reworking
of our tax system to put be putting figures in the spreadsheet and in any
event I absolutely disagree they should be constants by default. I feel
there is more room for discussion of the column titles yet and setting the
means by which the stuff that needs to auto index can auto index.

A single rule will not happen, at least not a simple one, too many
exceptions to be built in. A set of rules.

 

No. Remove the exceptions. In doing so the system becomes fairer.

 

That would work fine if we didnt have a global economy where often
different countries tax legislation clashes .

 

**** other countries. This is our tax system we are on about here.

 

ITYM "here are some numbers I plucked out of my arse".

 

Exactly. It seems to work for everyone else.

Plus my arse feels better now it's not all bunged up with numbers.

 

Should have worked them out with a pencil. Or logs.

 

Okay - set up as a trust to avoid inheritance tax.

 

And to avoid it being taken over by ... Beaverbrook? (CBATG)

 

No it isn't

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...rmers-style-robot-suit.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

 

Pride.

 

Trying to emulate Katie Price?

 

Well, if a log won't drive them out...

 

It might be funny (to you) but it wasn't what I wrote.