Today's demonstration

Is Steve not allowed to disagree, either?

Whereas their predecessors thought no-one could live a life without
state interference. The only thing they had no control over was where
on earth they were going to get the money from to pay for it.

 

That's because Tory goverments usuaally have to spend their first few
parliaments paying for LAbour's largesse.

 

I understand completely the need to minimise the tax bill, I am all for it
I am all for equitable as well and right now it needs both.

Not just the authors of the pamphlet, the target of their affections are
often portrayed in a similar light.

TUC hypocritical? Absolutely, name a topic.

You seem to have answered your own unasked question and correctly too.
Well done.

 

In what way?

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...-is-obsessive-but-not-compulsive-1651589.html

Specifically ...

"Amazingly, The Guardian was forced to admit, though it did so as
quietly as possible, that The Guardian Media Group (GMG) had also
practised tax avoidance. In conjunction with Apax partners, GMG had
incorporated a new company registered in the Cayman Islands as part of
its joint acquisition of part of the publisher Emap. The purpose was
to reduce the tax liabilities of employees and executives of Apax. It
was entirely legal but as morally questionable, for those who
abominate tax avoidance of any kind, as what Tesco and Barclays have
done. "

 

This is not all about you this is about us or, from your perspective,
them. Most of them do it for the paycheck.

Of course. I dunno what sort of general Napoleon would make of me I am in
the camp that are lazy.

Only if your perspective is limited.

I am not so sure I would be happy about sharing it with any ilk, it would
be a bit out of character.

There you go again, it is not about me it is about them and if they want
me to think of them as us they have to treat you in exactly the same way
as they treat themselves. Treat others as you would want them to be
treating you. It is not a new idea by any means.

 

You can take the source with as large a pinch of salt as you wish, but...
http://order-order.com/2009/02/02/guardians-tax-hypocrisy-is-ridiculous/
http://order-order.com/2011/02/21/the-guardian-uncut-and-full-of-cant/

 

On 2011-03-27 12:03:28 +0100, said:

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Why stop there? Up it to 25% so the deficit gets paid off earlier and
we can actually start to improve services.

 

Ah.

I'm not defending anyone, but having a sibling organisation share in a
bit of off-shore registration is somewhat different from being an
off-shore entity oneself.

 

Sure. See reply to SD. But just to give the other side
http://www.guardian.co.uk/help/insideguardian/2011/feb/22/blogpost

 

Looks right from here. Don't really care what the news server says.

And I'm grumpy because of public stupidity...

 

But... that can't be right! The Iron Chancellor said there would be "No
return to boom and bust".

If I'm gratefull for one thing to UK Uncut it is to remove the scales
from my eyes that had caused me to think about voting Labour at the last
election. I don't know what came over me. In the end I bottled and
voted for the coalition although I didn't realise it at the time.

 

The deficit doesn't need to be paid off, it needs to be eliminated.
The debt then needs to be paid off or, at least, significantly
reduced.

Services are generally pretty good bit the public sector is hugely
inefficient. The waste is what needs to be sorted. Seat-polishers,
not paperclips and pot-plants.

 

It wouldnt ever happen because giving people the option wether to pay
or not pay would generally mean people wouldnt pay

 

The basic fact is Gordon Brown and his predecessor Tony Blair went on
a spending spree without the ability to pay it back .

Wether this was some form of political geremandering or plain
incompetance i dont know .

Unfortunatly the chickens have come home to roost , no matter which
political party won the last election all would have been making the
same cuts now .

Its rather crass that Milliband and the rest of the shadow cabinet
now lectures the tories on how things should be done

 

Having to brake for goms with no forward observation skills.

 

Pulic pariahs because they have wrecked the economy and carried
regardless.

How much tax do bankers pay on their income? Let's have a number.

How much tax were they paying and how much are they paying now?

 

First hit for `uncollected tax in uk':

Beleaguered HM Revenue & Customs took another blow last night as
official figures showed that the annual amount of uncollected tax has
reached a record 42billion.

The extraordinary figure amounts to 1,600 for every household in the
country.

The `tax gap' soared under the Labour government, meaning that almost
10 per cent of money owed to the Exchequer goes unpaid.

The amount of uncollected corporation tax jumped by 19 per cent over
two years, from 5.8billion to 6.9billion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mans-coffers-10-revenue-goes-uncollected.html

 

In honesty, they should mention the fact as a declaration of interest.

 

I thought we were talking about "bankers", not New Labour.

Nice woolly noun, too. Can't be too specific, can we?

Do we include everyone from Bob Diamond all they way down to Sharon or
Tracy at the call centre? What about Howard off the Halifax ads -
don't see much of him lately - perhaps he's gone into hiding.

Same as anyone else on the same money.