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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Freedy, May 4, 2004.

  1. Freedy

    Wik Guest

    Oh aye, the DC thing; sorry mate, 101 other things to sort out right now
    [1].

    Umm, maybe, funds and calendar permitting. In other words, come back
    to me if you're struggling to fill places.

    Cheers.

    [1] Christofire, this affects you, too. :)
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    Wik, May 7, 2004
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  2. Freedy

    darsy Guest

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    darsy, May 7, 2004
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  3. Freedy

    Wik Guest

    [reads Ginge's post]

    Ahh, yes... /Now/ I recall. Made oi smoile.
    :)

    Thanks, peeps.

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    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
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    Wik, May 7, 2004
  4. Freedy

    Wik Guest

    If the voices in your head say so, "Nike" him...

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    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, May 7, 2004
  5. Freedy

    Wik Guest

    Sounds fucking familiar; I've to go to bloody Birmingham later in the year
    and give up my Staurday 'cause it's "personal development".

    Eh? HTF does that work, eh? The veneing will just /fly/ by; bunch of
    30-something IT professionals sitting around in a hotel bar in Brum
    drinking ale and discussing which series of Star Tre...Oh, hang on...
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    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2003 R1150GSA -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, May 7, 2004
  6. Freedy

    Wik Guest

    It did indeed mate, thanks.
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    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, May 7, 2004
  7. But I'm not battling!


    I'll get my coat.
     
    William Grainger, May 7, 2004
  8. Freedy

    dwb Guest

    We've actually got some furniture since then, and completely re-done the
    bathroom.

    Which is why I know Champ hasn't been back... he wouldn't be allowed in with
    those grubby leathers.
     
    dwb, May 7, 2004
  9. Freedy

    Wik Guest

    I fucking /hate/ middle-management bullshit.

    If you see in the news tonight "London man goes ape-shit crazy and stabs
    BMW 330-driving HR trainee executive **** in eye with pencil", that'll be
    me.

    I'm sure I've mentioned it about this time last year, but apparantly,
    /I've/ got to complete my own fucking appraisal by such and such a date;
    err, hang on, isn't the idea that /they/ tell /me/ how I'm doing?
    Not t'other way around...

    I think what's worse still is that not only have I got to complete the
    ruddy thing, /I've/ also got to get it right and it be usable by HR[1].

    Fuckers.

    [1]Unlike the one from 2001...
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    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, May 10, 2004
  10. Freedy

    sweller Guest

    Our lot have started some 360 appraisal thing. I have no idea what
    that's about except they've given the HR manager's [1] appraisal to us
    (the Trade Union).

    My Lords, he's shit in someone's bed ....


    [1] He keeps us in 'customers' and the local tribunal office are on
    first name terms.
     
    sweller, May 10, 2004
  11. Freedy

    Salad Dodger Guest

    We have to do our own, too.

    In MSAccess, would you believe.

    A truly dreadful front end (a form, presumably) has been nailed on,
    with text boxes to fill in.

    We have to

    A: set our own objectives for the year.
    B: detail our own development needs for the year.[1]
    C: measure our performance against last year's objectives.

    Our manager then fills in a summary of his thoughts, and appends any
    external feedback.

    A complete and utter total waste of fucking time and effort.

    Thank you, the FSA.

    [1] It has been stated, by HR, that if you don't have some kind of
    training, in all areas of your role, every year, you cannot be deemed
    competent in that role. So everyone says that they undertook some
    training.
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    Salad Dodger, May 10, 2004
  12. On Mon, 10 May 2004 09:03:48 +0100, Salad Dodger

    [staff appraisals]
    Our directors cannot work out what ours should be. Here we are half way
    through Period 2 and no objectives or targets.
    I've just been told today that our director doesn't believe our training
    is in line with business needs. I asked when someone had told us the
    business needs. Err ohh - fair comment.

    I now have to have an additional quarterly review meeting to determine
    whether I / my staff are competent and whether I / they are making
    sufficient progress towards being competent.

    Only problem is that no one has yet defined the competency that is
    expected.

    Oh we have to do that. Or to put it another way - we say what we think
    we did and then fight the boss when he disagrees or otherwise challenges
    what we say. The 2003/4 appraisal process was great fun.

    And no one has yet decided whether our new staff competency "objective"
    and progress against it will count towards our performance related pay
    assessment. Ho hum.
    But we have to identify essential training for our staff. Slight snag is
    that there is no money at all in the training budget to train anybody.
     
    Paul Corfield, May 10, 2004
  13. Freedy

    Wik Guest

    Oh, I believe, mate, I believe...[1]
    [snip remaining crimes]

    Mmm, ours is marginally "better" in that some useless clown has
    "developed" it in MS Word...

    ....as a giant table whose fields are fixed width and don't expand to
    accomodate.

    Fucking shite.

    [1] "Haaa-lellujah!" :)
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    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, May 10, 2004
  14. Freedy

    platypus Guest

    Not doing "Balanced Scorecard" yet? Signing up to the objectives of your
    directors?

    Bet you can't even think of a decent Finance Contribution on which you can
    be measured...
     
    platypus, May 10, 2004
  15. Freedy

    Jackie Guest

    *waves* we do this..
    we invented all ours.. (but made sure they were achievable first).
    Oh and we have been asked to set ourselves a target for the end of the
    year, and if we achieve this, our 2005 bonus will depend on it. Guess
    what? they weren't very high, and we have done them already.. :)
     
    Jackie, May 11, 2004
  16. Freedy

    platypus Guest

    Nice if you can get away with it. My manager is a bit of a monomaniac and
    has bought into the whole balanced scratchcard thing bigstyle. She sits
    down with each of us individually and agonises over every damn thing in the
    document, writes out the answers longhand and sends us off to reinvent her
    concepts in our own words.

    I don't know how much more of this I can take.
     
    platypus, May 11, 2004
  17. Freedy

    marina Guest

    I used to do this (when I worked in a business environment) on all my
    targets. Set them low (using work already scheduled mainly) and then
    overachieve. I'm sure that's what everybody does with these self-set
    targets. And there's the problem for business generally - nobody ever
    questions these targets, nobody ever seeks to stretch the bods what
    set them.

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    marina, May 12, 2004
  18. Your boss must be the wife of my director. They sound ideally matched.
    Well I was given the new talk this week about how our competence (to do
    our job) is going to be assessed so that the director can demonstrate to
    his potential new boss that he hasn't really wasted the last 18 months
    doing the wrong thing. I was then told I had to have an additional
    quarterly review meeting and measure progress etc. However no one has
    yet defined what the competence is supposed to include, how that area of
    competence is co-ordinated with other areas of competence (e.g health
    and safety) and what timescale all of this is to be done in. I just sat
    there asking very awkward questions for an hour.

    I do share your overall concern - especially when I get harangued by my
    boss about far more important things I have not been able to do because
    I am drowning in pointless bureaucracy.
     
    Paul Corfield, May 12, 2004
  19. Freedy

    platypus Guest

    In reality, most large organisations have a complete shakeup every 2 years
    at least, so I've just got to tough it out for another 18 munce. That's
    what I tell myself, anyway.
     
    platypus, May 12, 2004
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