TMRA 2 .. DFW Chapter

Just got the call and the regular monthly meeting for DFW Chaper will be
Wednesday evening at 7:00 PM, Aug. 10... The meeting place will be VFW Hall
at 300 Smith St., Dallas.. The VFW is located just east of loop 12 and south
of Davis St.

Elmer McKeeghan will be chairing the meeting and this one will be just ahead
of the District Advisors' meeting in Elgin, Tx. on the 13th of August..
Anyone who has ideas which should be addressed in our upcoming year might
want to attend this meeting and put them on the table.. Now is the time to
have those ideas explored and presented to Advisors throughout the state..
That's the way the agendas are set and the priorities are established as to
the direction of this motorcyclists advocacy group..

See all of you there..

Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.

 

Yeah, because you did SO much in the last legislative session to get how
many laws/bills passed? Oh, I'm sorry........ZERO?!! Yeah, I foresee a
whole lot of people joining you. And, if they join TMRA (or whatever other
orginization you belong to) it will be in SPITE of you and your bullshit

 

Since you missed my last reply I've added it here too.

Sorry about the wait I was out of touch for two weeks. I really shouldn't
have bothered answering this since I did leave town the next day and I did
leave you all without any responses from me, sorry about that, however I'm
back in town now.

The question I posed to you which you quickly ignored was what have you done
that makes you such an expert. You were quick to attack others for trying
and I wanted to know what bills you've gotten passed. If you are that expert
then please enlighten us on your accomplishments.
As far as my ducks, well here they are and they do line up pretty much ok.
Now I'm not going to bother with the 2003 session since there was a break in
the quorum and that killed everything towards the end of the session, both
good and bad. So I'll stick with the 2005, even tho that session was pretty
lame even with everyone there.
Now I know Bill was in Austin to help support a few bills this session. Now
I wasn't in Austin as often as Bill so I don't know what other bills he was
supporting besides the ones we were trying to get passed. We failed on some
bills and did get another passed, we also defeated some we didn't want
passed. Sometimes what you are able to kill is more important that what you
pass.
But with the groups help (which does include Bill and many others) we were
able to defeat the
HB50
Subject: Relating to the authority of certain local law enforcement agencies
to establish a checkpoint on a highway

HB309
Subject: Relating to the authority of certain law enforcement agencies to
establish a checkpoint on a highway or street

SB25
Subject: Relating to the authority of certain law enforcement agencies to
establish a checkpoint on a highway or street



What did get passed.

SB1311
Subject: Relating to the establishment of an all-terrain vehicle trail and
recreational area program


I know that Bill did attend at least two public hearings for bills when he
was asked to show up. Since according to Texas legislature notification only
has to be posted 24 hours in advance, its great when enough of the
supporters show up to make a difference. I know in the first public meeting
I attended this session we had laid the ground work but the support of the
public hearing made the difference in getting the bill out of committee.

So I've answered the question about what Bill helped out on. Not as
grandiose as one may have hoped, but this is Texas politics and we'll go
back next session and try once again. It has taken us more than one try on
each bill to get them passed.

Now you answer the question about the legislation you helped get passed, all
the public hearings you attended.

 

Just replying to his general statements about TMRA2 and Bill. All these
people claim how much they dislike Bill and his tactics and then do the same
things they say they detest. So I just try to point out the error of their
ways when they attack TMRA2 or Vets. He has done both.
I don't get involved in many of these fits, but sometimes it does get to me.
Attacking Bill because he cares enough to try and do something is just
wrong. If you don't like Bill then fine, I'm sure he could care less, but
don't attack him because he bothers to get involved and tries to accomplish
something.

I just reply to the group and don't care about his email address. As far as
losing it all together I guess you keeping him killfiled pretty much answers
that. I'm waiting to see if he will answer the question since he implied he
knows a lot about the political process.

 

Brian wrote:
‘‘Elmer, what's up?
I wasn't aware this Iggy (has anyone noticed that a spell-check comes up
with "Piggy"?) person was still with us. I did such a wonderful job with
my killfile, I never saw anything he wrote. It seems I'll have to modify
my killfile a bit more now that he seems to have lost his email address
from the replies people are making to him. Oh well! There's nothing like
throwing a bit more coal into the fire for me....


‘‘Just replying to his (iggy) general statements about TMRA2
and Bill. All these people claim how much they dislike Bill and his
tactics and then do the same things they say they detest. So I just try
to point out the error of their ways when they attack TMRA2 or Vets. He
has done both. I don't get involved in many of these fits, but sometimes
it does get to me. Attacking Bill because he cares
enough to try and do something is just wrong. If you don't like Bill
then fine, I'm sure he could care less, but don't attack him because he
bothers to get involved and tries to accomplish something.
Was him losing his email address part of how you replied to him, or has
he generally lost it all together?
I just reply to the group and don't care about his email address.
As far as losing it all together I guess you keeping him killfiled
pretty much answers that. I'm waiting to see if he will answer the
question since he implied he knows a lot
(Elmer)


‘‘Elmer, Iggy won't read that much ''writing''. Too much
information, for him! So he will just do a oneLiner type responses. It
is his nature, it seems! I don't think I have ever read a real OnTopic
comment from Mr. Iggy. He is one of those that takes jabs and gets the
heck out here. I would be surprised if he actually gives you a civil,
logical opinion, pro or con’’ cheers, BJAY

 

Not wanting to speak for Iggy since he is certainly able to speak for
himself, and does, but I would like to point out an angle maybe you
have not considered.

Obviously you are proud of the accomplishments of the TMRAII. You have
worked hard to support bikers rights in your State and that is
commendable. I am sure you have tried to leverage every last iota of
support from those you have been able to reach with your message and I
am sure you attempt to utilize every forum available to you to send
that message.

The disconnect here Elmer is this very forum. Here we have a forum
dedicated to Texas motorcycle riders. Here you can speak your mind,
frame your message in whatever context you desire and for little or no
cost deliver your message and solicit support. Yet in this very forum
the man who represents [1]the TMRAII has systematically abused,
bullied and belittled the very riders you seek. He has fabricated the
worst type of lies about them and continued to post them as truth. He
has attacked them verbally and physically. And he has used some of
their family members as fodder for his fallacies. At the end of the
day he has alienated the supporters you sought and has driven them out
of a forum that could have been very useful to you. Instead of
cultivating it he has killed it. Look at the traffic here. If it
wasn't for the cross posting to Reeky and the three or four regulars
who post here, this group is a desert. It could have been an oasis.

More to the point his actions has soured many on the laudable goals of
the TRMAII and it wouldn't surprise me if some of those people have
contacted the elected officials you are currently lobbying. If they
haven't yet I suspect they may be one of Bill's tirades away from
pointing out to the Legislators who represents the TMRAII and what
they are capable of.

You obviously consider Bill a friend and of course I wouldn't question
that. It is a personal choice. However you might rethink having Bill
represent your group in a public forum. He is not very good
advertising and clearly (at least here) is not an effective advocate
for your message. From my perspective I suspect he has been partially
responsible for your limited success in moving your preferred bills
forward.

[1] It has been suggested in the past Bill does not represent the
TMRAII, but that premise fails the giggle test when he is your
spokesman in the group. He announces meetings, agendas, encourages the
two or three who are reading to attend and provides summaries of
discussions and results. With or without the proper authority to do
so, Bill has offered himself up as a TMRAII spokesman.
--


Don
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Doesn't preclude me from expressing an opinion

Lots of Bills die on the table, sometimes intentionally.

I don't doubt that Brian. Bill can be a very articulate and persuasive
speaker/writer. Had he done more of that here and less of the abusive
crap, you might have discovered stronger support for the TMRAII.

Thanks for helping me prove my point.
--


Don
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Sure you didn't, Brian....still a lying son of a bitch just like dear old
dad, huh?

It seems I'll have to modify my

Lost my email address? LOL that's a laugh! Still making up
stories....hmmmm, again, just like that lying sonofabitch of a father of
yours, huh?

You lost it long ago, my friend. Saying I lost my email address is like you

 

A bald-faced lie. I've never attacked either. I HAVE said that Bill does
nothing but drag both groups down

He has done both.
But that's just it, he doesn't effectively DO anything....at all.

You're a dumb shit, Brian. IF you've actually had me kill-filed in the
past, the same rules should apply. I haven't morphed headers or my email
addy at all....you know it and I know it. Do try to keep from being a lying
son of a bitch like your daddy. <chuckle>

 

Brian wrote:
''Elmer, what's up?
I wasn't aware this Iggy (has anyone noticed that a spell-check comes up
with "Piggy"?) person was still with us. I did such a wonderful job with
my killfile, I never saw anything he wrote. It seems I'll have to modify
my killfile a bit more now that he seems to have lost his email address
from the replies people are making to him. Oh well! There's nothing like
throwing a bit more coal into the fire for me....


''Just replying to his (iggy) general statements about TMRA2
and Bill. All these people claim how much they dislike Bill and his
tactics and then do the same things they say they detest. So I just try
to point out the error of their ways when they attack TMRA2 or Vets. He
has done both. I don't get involved in many of these fits, but sometimes
it does get to me. Attacking Bill because he cares
enough to try and do something is just wrong. If you don't like Bill
then fine, I'm sure he could care less, but don't attack him because he
bothers to get involved and tries to accomplish something.
Was him losing his email address part of how you replied to him, or has
he generally lost it all together?
I just reply to the group and don't care about his email address.
As far as losing it all together I guess you keeping him killfiled
pretty much answers that. I'm waiting to see if he will answer the
question since he implied he knows a lot
(Elmer)


<snip the usual BJay bullshit>

Wow, you really are a chickenshit, little, dumb mother fucker, ain't ya?

 

<grin> Would you care to mention a few of those "very riders" ?

He has fabricated the

Whew.. What 'lies' ? About "who" ?

He

LOL... Let's see just a few examples of all this..

At the end of the

What were all these so called "supporters" doing before I came on this
newsgroup ?.. Where were they before I became a member and advocate of TMRA
2 ?

Instead of

ROTFL... My importance is very exaggerated in your mind, isn't it ?

<sigh> Very gracious, I'm sure..

It is a personal choice. However you might rethink having Bill

ROTFLMAO... Operative words are "public forum".. right ?

He is not very good

hmmm.. Interesting.. You certainly seem to be doing a great deal of talking
about "messages" and "advocates".. Something is working ..

From my perspective I suspect he has been partially

Do you know which Bills that you are trying to discuss, here ?

ROTFLMAO.. I don't like you one damn bit more than you like me.. The
difference being, I'm on the ground.. month after month, while you sit in
Canada playing usenet.. Your silliness is only exceeded by your foolishness
... Next time you'd feel called upon to "pay someone a visit in their home,
with a couple of your friends".. you'd probably be better served if you are
prepared to back up that threat... Usenet drivel isn't impressive ..

Bill Walker

 

No bald faced lie. You were called out when you ran down the vets. Your
intentions may have been to attack Bill, but you ran down the vets instead.
That is the same for TMRA2, you may have meant to run down Bill, but that is
not what you say. Here is a quote from you when Bill spoke of Mike Alvey
chairing the TMRA2

"Yeah, they are THE ones to count on to get absolutely NO legislation
passed....with your expert help, of course <chuckle>"

You attacked TMRA2 and then in the end slighted Bill.

So no bald-faced lie here, just your attacking of both groups and the
evidence is before you.

 

Once again Bill you have no idea what I do here in Canada but you
fabricate bullshit stories in a lame attempt to puff up your own
profile while trying to degrade others.

More of your lies Bill. I do not recall ever making that threat to
you. This is the umpteenth time I have reminded you of that but you
continue to post the same lie.

If anyone is left reading this crap, here is your TMRAII
representative, once again lying and using veiled threats. This is the
man charged by the TMRAII to carry your message. I somehow doubt you
are in very good hands.
--


Don
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<smile> The only one degrading you is yourself.. hmmm.. You keep on
talking about what I "fabricate" and never seem to point out that
fabrication..

Sure.. you remember that little threat.. it was immediately followed by my
posting my home address to be sure you found your way.. ROTFL...

<laugh> No one is in my hands, unless you could consider yourself, there..
You are not only a lame wannabe, you are blessed with an overabundance of
SILLY...

 

LOL... That isn't what this is all about with Don Binns.. You haven't
touched the tip of the iceberg.. There is a common denominator between Don
Binns and a few of these other Newsgroup groupies.. When you look closely,
it becomes obvious..

Bill Walker
Irving

 

hmmmm.... I don't recall that your name has been connected with anything,
Bill Fright.. As far as I can determine, you "claim" to ride a motorcycle..
nothing more.. To my knowledge.. you've never attended any activitiy or
function that is of benefit to anyone connected with a motorcyclists'
advocacy group..FYI... I drink very, very little .. I'm a bit past the "beer
brawling" stage, in years..

Nah.. You definitely are NOT a rider that I've alienated from anything, Bill
Fright..

I do two major

You've certainly done an excellent job of "avoiding" LOL.. You live in the
Austin area, if my impression is correct.. right ? Motorcyclists Advocacy
groups have been in YOUR hometown countless times, since January of this
year.. Thousands of them, and from all over this State of Texas.. Far as I
can tell, you've never put in an appearance at any of those events.. Many
people on this newsgroup have..

Perhaps fortunately, you aren't an "advocate" for anything but Bill Fright..
If one man... Bill Walker is influential enough to keep you on the
sidelines, where you obviously are, there really isn't much to be desired as
an advocate.. <chuckle> There certainly isn't much demonstration of all
that integrity you want to crow about, in this post..

Bill Walker

 

Whoops.. That's interesting.. Considering that I've only been involved with
TMRA 2, for a short while.. compared to some of these guys.. where were you
before I became a member.?? I've never laid eyes on you.. Texas is a big
ol' state.. Chapters of different motorcyclists advocacy groups are
scattered all over the place.. even in Houston.. your home town.. Far as I
know.. you don't belong to a one of them.. Welfare bikers like you don't
advocate for much of anything, especially to someone else's benefit..

Bill Walker doesn't have anything to do with whether or not you can function
anywhere besides on usenet..

Bill Walker
Irving

 

ROTFL... Who have I driven away from anywhere, Nurick ?? What a damned
joke..

 

ROTFL... Which "private party" did I "crash" ? The funny part is, that
you've never been within a city block of me, that I know of.. <chuckle>
and you made that decision several years ago, when you discovered that I'd
not put up with your juvenile bullshit on this newsgroup or on the ground..
Simple minded little usenet freaks like you, don't usually expose
themeselves more than they have to..

<evil grin> I outgrew the gun thing a long time ago..hmmm... First of all..
there was no "party crashed".. Secondly, the man that supposedly got
assaulted is almost twice my size.. Thirdly.. that whole group was
"packing" all kinds of guns.. I didn't need a gun that day.. hehehe.. What
happened ?

It ain't working, Nurick..

 

No need to worry about that.. LOL.