Throttle and Clutch Cables

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by sweller, Jan 11, 2009.

  1. sweller

    Rusty_Hinge Guest

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    And?

    Think about it - the 'hooks' are on the back face of the sprocket, not
    the driven side.

    There would be a momentary take-up on the overrun, but for the temporary
    replacement of (say) a cracked or distorted sprocket, I can't see any
    reason why it should have any deleterious effect on the chain.
     
    Rusty_Hinge, Jan 13, 2009
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  2. sweller

    Rusty_Hinge Guest

    I know what you mean - the last couple of weeks have seen me walking to
    the shops.
     
    Rusty_Hinge, Jan 13, 2009
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  3. sweller

    sweller Guest

    No, they're not. A set of cables come to 10% of the bikes value.

    They only need replacing if they are not serviceable. Easily
    identifiable.

    A GT750 is not a classic bike, it's not horrid either but it is a shite
    old bike (SOB).

    Had one, it was just shite.

    Servicing and cursory checking exposes fraying cables long before they
    fail. Do the job properly and you won't have to piss about buying new
    stuff until you need to.

    It's about bangernomics not concours.
     
    sweller, Jan 13, 2009
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  4. sweller

    Champ Guest

    Yes. Obviously. Perhaps you should think about the effect of meshing
    those hooks 'the wrong way' through the chain.
    Well, alls fair as a temporary get-you-home measure. But in 30 years
    I've never seen a sprocket so damaged that I'd considered putting a
    worn replacement back on.
     
    Champ, Jan 13, 2009
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  5. sweller

    A.Clews Guest

    <raises hand> Me too. I still have an old brake disk hanging in the
    garage too :-{
     
    A.Clews, Jan 13, 2009
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  6. sweller

    Guest Guest

    But that's so she can call you for lunch, right?

    Either she hits it hard with a wrench, or throws it at you*, kung-fu
    style, if you're not taking any notice.

    Regards,

    S.

    *This works for a certain value of brake disk, however the Land Rover
    set I have won't get hung up, just in case...
     
    Guest, Jan 13, 2009
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  7. sweller

    Beav Guest

    I'm sure you wouldn't put these sprockets back on. In fact, even the scrap
    man would refuse 'em :)

    This bloke doesn't even think about changing stuff until it's fucked beyond
    redemption so when he does take off a pair of sprockets (not that he ever
    does both at the same time) they don't even look like sprockets anymore.
    More like a wavy disc really :)


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Jan 13, 2009
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  8. sweller

    Rusty_Hinge Guest

    The message <>
    I suggest a quick visit to the woods...
     
    Rusty_Hinge, Jan 13, 2009
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  9. sweller

    Rusty_Hinge Guest

    I've never run a sprocket to the state where the hooks are apparant
    without peering fairly closely.
    I had a bolt-on one split across the teeth, where the sprocket was only
    about half an inch deep. This was due to a fault in the metal, not the
    gigantic power output of a T35 Mk III Douglas... I had the choice of
    replacing it with a slightly worn one from one of the spare wheels
    hanging about in the shed, or putting a brand-new trials one on.

    The brand new trials sprocket was earmarked for a T35 Mk III Trials...
     
    Rusty_Hinge, Jan 13, 2009
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  10. sweller

    Ace Guest

    I don't think I've ever replaced a sprocket that _wasn't_ visibly
    hooked. I mean, why would you?
     
    Ace, Jan 13, 2009
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  11. Feck, they even break on shoes, so what earthly use are they?
    I use nylon cord - lasts for years.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 13, 2009
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  12. sweller

    Rusty_Hinge Guest

    Chains are expensive?
     
    Rusty_Hinge, Jan 13, 2009
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  13. sweller

    Ace Guest

    And so are sprockets. Your point is?

    In France it is (or was, last time I tried) virtually impossible to
    buy a chain _without_ a sprocket. Bloody annoying, it is. I remember
    one time getting the mechanic to come out of the workshop to persuade
    the sales-droid that although I needed a new chain the sprocket was
    still perfectly OK. He was convinced, but they still couldn't sell me
    one except as part of a bike-specific C&S set.

    I popped over to Germany instead, where the Triumph main dealer was
    quite happy to just sell a length of chain, even though they couldn't
    fit it themselves as the mechanic doesn't work Saturday afternoons.
     
    Ace, Jan 13, 2009
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  14. sweller

    Champ Guest

    OK, now you really are out there with the wild-eyed looneys.

    Are you suggesting that you might have a worn sprocket, that needed
    replacing, without an equally worn chain?
     
    Champ, Jan 13, 2009
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  15. sweller

    Rusty_Hinge Guest

    Read the exchange.

    You replace chains when you can pull it a significant distance off the
    back of the sprocket - just so you *DON'T* wear the latter.
     
    Rusty_Hinge, Jan 13, 2009
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  16. sweller

    Champ Guest

    <gives up>

    You seem to be a stranger to logic.
     
    Champ, Jan 13, 2009
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  17. sweller

    platypus Guest

    Nylon is a dead and unresponsive material, which doesn't allow you to
    properly feel what the bike is doing. Good quality catgut, carefully broken
    in and lubricated, will last as long as nylon and give superior performance
    at a fraction of the cost.
     
    platypus, Jan 13, 2009
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  18. sweller

    ginge Guest

    You've not really allowed for the cost of the cats, or the labour
    involved in the gutting, have you?
     
    ginge, Jan 13, 2009
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  19. sweller

    platypus Guest

    I haven't, but it's not a significant factor. Cats are easy enough to trap,
    and the guts of a single cat will provide sufficient for two or three
    motorcycles. Catskin is used for furry insoles, and the remains can be sold
    into the speciality restaurant trade.
     
    platypus, Jan 13, 2009
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  20. sweller

    Beav Guest

    Not quite the same thing as taking a totally fucked sprocket off to replace
    it with a new one and then hanging onto the fucked one in case you need a
    "spare" though, is it?


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Jan 14, 2009
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