Thoughts on flip front Cabergs please

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Brian, Oct 24, 2006.

  1. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Recently dropped my Lazer Revolution onto some concrete that some
    bastard put in the way, it bounced well. So I need to replace my hat.

    Have been thinking about the Caberg Justisimo or Caberg Trip. Some
    reviews of the Justisimo show serious concern on water leakage onto the
    inside of the visor in heavy rain. Reports also talk about noise, but
    it's a flipfront FFS. Can't find any reviews on the Trip, its £50'ish
    cheaper, but is it any good.

    Anyone got any comments on these hats, both good and bad thoughts (on
    the hats) welcome.

    TIA

    Brian
     
    Brian, Oct 24, 2006
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    wessie Guest

    Seem popular amongst R-GS riders: they do one in a silver to match a GSA
    for the vane types.
    http://www.ukgser.com/forums/search.php?searchid=54737
    (may need to sign up to see the threads, it's free)

    No good reading magazine reviews: you need to try them for fit. I've often
    gone into a helmet shop intending to buy a helmet costing less than £150.
    After several sweaty minutes I usually emerge with a £200+ Arai as they
    seem to be the most comfortable fit for me.
     
    wessie, Oct 24, 2006
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  3. Brian

    Mike Barnard Guest

    Hi.

    I've got a Justissimo. I've had it about three months now and I think
    I've got the measure of it. It's a great touring helmet [1], but not
    so good on a sportsbike.

    The flip up front doesn't go up high enough in my opinion. When its
    fully up it still sits in my view and annoys me. Not that I need to
    see the tops of the trees to ride the bike, but it still annoys me.

    Yes, its noisy, but as you said its whats expected. If I travel any
    distance I wear earplugs.

    The anti fog visor is good, but not as good as my old Uvex wing. On
    wet days the visor still gets condensation in it and it does let water
    in too. Not loads, but enough.

    It feels nice and light enough for me, gives plenty of vision, the
    integral sun visor is useful and it looks good. Oh, get a size
    smaller than you think you need. It loosened off very quickly.

    Hope this helps.

    [1] Pan, Harley or any sit up style, less than 90mph bike. [2]
    Although an FJR 1300 has a good enough screen that might make it OK.

    [2] At any speed above 90 the flatter front of the Caberg makes lots
    of drag so I've discovered. If one were to try and ride a GSXR1000
    like mine in the 120 plus range you just might find yourself fighting
    for breath with the chinguard pressed tight against your face and the
    visor agains your nose. So I've heard.
     
    Mike Barnard, Oct 24, 2006
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  4. Brian

    Sean Guest

    I find it rather uncomfortable to ride with the front up on mine. I'm not
    sure if thats because it catches the wind a lot, or because the way it sits
    in view makes me imagine its catching the wind more than it really is.
    Ditto. Its fine for bobbing around town, earplugs are a must for distance
    and or speeds >60mph.
    I find mine is *very* prone to steaming up when its soggy, and if its
    raining, as soon as its open a crack the inside of the visor (and both
    sides of my glasses) are covered with water.
    Agreed. I thought it was a just a gimmick when I bought the lid, now I find
    I really miss it when I'm wearing another.

    hth
    Sean
    x
     
    Sean, Oct 24, 2006
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  5. Brian

    Beav Guest

    Recently dropped my Lazer Revolution onto some concrete that some
    bastard put in the way, it bounced well. So I need to replace my hat.

    Have been thinking about the Caberg Justisimo or Caberg Trip. Some
    reviews of the Justisimo show serious concern on water leakage onto the
    inside of the visor in heavy rain. Reports also talk about noise, but
    it's a flipfront FFS. Can't find any reviews on the Trip, its £50'ish
    cheaper, but is it any good.

    If the reporter who wrote that they leak in the rain had been wearing mine,
    he'd never have said it. Mine's water tight, but it's noisy (Justissimo)
    although after playing around with various hand positions, it's NOT the flip
    pivot/mechanism area that's at fault, it's the area under the chin. A hand
    situated ala "The Thinker" and it goes silent, so the rubber "mini curtain"
    that's part of the lid needs modifying. I can't see it being a big job
    either, I've just not got around tuit.

    Anyone got any comments on these hats, both good and bad thoughts (on
    the hats) welcome.

    Mine's warm, comfortable and fits my likkle head perfectly. It doesn't leak
    and with a slight mod, it won't be nearly as noisy as it is now.The internal
    flip down dark visor is fucking magic, coz you can have *just* that down, or
    both the inner and outer. The chin vent isn't astonishingly good,, but the
    one on the top works very well. The seat belt strap fastener is something I
    could live without, but you can't have everything. It HAS got a gold ACU
    sticker though, so you could probably use it on a trackday.



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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
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    Beav, Oct 24, 2006
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  6. Brian

    Beav Guest

    A Zed thou at an indicated 155 didn't push mine onto my phizzog, so maybe
    yours is a bit on the big side.


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Oct 24, 2006
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    Howard Guest

    Further thought re the Justissimo, in that v. hot weather, I took
    off the chin guard.
    Delightful open face helmet with sun visor.
     
    Howard, Oct 24, 2006
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  8. Brian

    Mike Barnard Guest

    On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:18:51 GMT, "Beav"

    [A]
    Probably related to [A] above.
     
    Mike Barnard, Oct 24, 2006
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  9. Brian wrote
    Got one of them I have.
    That is bollox that is. Mine has been as waterproof as any other lid I
    have ever owned, or not as the case may be.

    Snot the flip front what is the issue percy but the extremely
    lightweight construction, imho. Yes there is more noise from the seam
    than on a non flipper but the Caberg is *very* light and simply does not
    have the mass to effectively dampen the noise, especially next to your
    ears.

    I feel also that the helmet was designed for baby scootists or old cunts
    on lardy tourers and their slower and very much more upright riding
    position as it does appear to have better handling at speed if you tip
    your head up slightly although the aerodynamics are nowhere near as bad
    as my old BMW II lid what I used to have which was fucking appalling.

    The flip down dark inner visor is crap.

    On balance I prefer the Nolan X-lite.
     
    steve auvache, Oct 25, 2006
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  10. Beav wrote
    I initially had great reservations about this but now I am an utter
    convert.
     
    steve auvache, Oct 25, 2006
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  11. Brian

    Beav Guest

    I don't have a problem with how it works, but it's the first helmet I've had
    with a clip and I'm an old fashoined ****.

    (Remove "old fashioned" if you like)


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Oct 25, 2006
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  12. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Beav belched forth and ejected the following:
    Heh
     
    Whinging Courier, Oct 25, 2006
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  13. Beav wrote
    My Caberg is also the first ever seat belt type helmet I have ever had
    but having taken the plunge I like it.

    I must confess to being quite surprised that apart from initial running
    in and compaction of the liner I have not had to take up any slack in
    the strap whatsoever. I also have to confess one or two moments of
    absolute claustrophobic panic when cold fingers have failed to undo the
    release but practice and familiarity have turned this into a mild unease
    when it happens now.
     
    steve auvache, Oct 26, 2006
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  14. Brian

    Beav Guest

    Same here. It's the same fit now as it was within a few days use.

    I also have to confess one or two moments of
    I have those panic moments when I end a ride and discover I didn't fastened
    the strap in the first place. See, I said I was a ****.


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Oct 27, 2006
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