Those wire safety barriers

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Baileyana, Nov 18, 2005.

  1. Baileyana

    Baileyana Guest

    The RTA have installed the cheese cutter barriers on the hume at
    mundoonen ranges, just north of yass. the fences are 1 km long with no
    anchor points other than the ends. One of the fences is convex to the
    road around a long right hand bend on the southbound side, that makes
    the tension pull away from the road, how does this "catch" vehicles
    which stray off the road? they would have to travel through the curve of
    the fence before they would take tension and "catch " the vehicle. thus
    putting them well into the oncoming lanes.

    Mick Chester
     
    Baileyana, Nov 18, 2005
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  2. Baileyana

    Moike Guest

    I'd guess that the posts, although they do not look it, are quite
    strong, and that the fence would probably restrain a car a long time
    before it got to the other side of the median. On the other hand, I
    ubderstand these fences are nor designed to be used on concave curves.
    I assume the wire could slacken and create a pocket that could catch the
    vehicle and cause it to flip in a rather unpredictable manner.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Nov 18, 2005
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  3. Baileyana

    Will S Guest

    They do strange things but then its a government organisation.

    In Wollongong they had a wide barrier of hay bales that had trees growing
    on them. For some strange reason they have removed quite a bit of this and
    put the dreaded rider dicer in its place
     
    Will S, Nov 18, 2005
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  4. Baileyana

    justAL Guest

    "Cheese cutter barriers"

    Shheeessh! If you believe that you're a fuckwit....oh wait! You do!

    Fuckwit.

    justAL
     
    justAL, Nov 18, 2005
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  5. Baileyana

    Mad-Biker Guest

    You know, I was thinking (don't everybody get up)

    but what if they installed a plastic curtain panels that go from top to
    bottom that would cover the wire, thus any biker running into them, the
    force would be spread evenly into it, a hard/soft plastic that's thick
    enough not to brake with a frontal impact.

    being simple plastic bits if a car hit them the wire rope barrier would
    still work if not better as the force is spread between the cables, probably
    would help it stop acting like a band saw too...

    ..
     
    Mad-Biker, Nov 18, 2005
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  6. Who got diced?

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Nov 18, 2005
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  7. Baileyana

    Skuz Guest

    It's not actualy the wire rope that's the problem it's the exposed posts.
    The wire rope will absorb and distribute the force to a certain extent but
    the rigid posts will just snap you.

    An interesting article on road side barriers.
    http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-01/esv/esv19/05-0095-O.pdf

    Skuz
    '02 VFR800

    mundoonen ranges,
     
    Skuz, Nov 18, 2005
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  8. I'm actually concerned over the ornage 'poles' erected in the middle of the
    M4 either side (east and west) of the M7 cloverleaf thing. If a rider were
    to go over the wire fence (not unthinkable, they arent that high), I wouldnt
    like to get tangled amongst those poles.

    What are they for? Only reason I can think of is decoration.

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, Nov 18, 2005
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  9. Baileyana

    JL Guest

    The actual problem with WRB's isn't the wire rope, it's the posts used
    to hang the rope off. Well, the majority of reported deaths involving
    riders and WRBs any way

    JL
    (no I can't give the cite, I can't remember where I got the info - Aust
    College of Road Safety Meeting I think)
     
    JL, Nov 20, 2005
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  10. Baileyana

    Baileyana Guest

    Why the F@$#wit ?
    whats with the attitude?

    Mick
     
    Baileyana, Nov 20, 2005
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  11. Just to save myself googling (I have beer to drink), has there ever been a
    death that has "cheese-cuttered" a rider?

    Cheers

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Nov 21, 2005
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  12. It is still harsh week, Mick. For some people, this is their only social
    interaction. You have to smile sweetly for people like that.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Nov 21, 2005
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  13. Baileyana

    Moike Guest

    er... I wouldn't recommend 'smiling sweetly' at JustAl. You never know
    where you might end up.

    Moike

    (not that there's anything wrong with that....)
     
    Moike, Nov 21, 2005
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  14. Wise words of experience from Moike?

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Nov 21, 2005
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  15. Baileyana

    justAL Guest

    Last time he smiled sweetly it changed his life! ;)

    justAL
     
    justAL, Nov 21, 2005
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  16. Baileyana

    justAL Guest

    Because they aren't cheese cutters they're back breakers and I'm sick of
    hearing motorcyclists argue this point as all it does is to suggest how
    ignorant the biker population is.

    And it's week 282 of harsh week.


    justAL
     
    justAL, Nov 21, 2005
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  17. Baileyana

    JL Guest

    Yes, but afaik it wasn't the wires that sliced and diced him, it was the
    posts (plural). The corpse however was sans (most or all) limbs and the
    head wasn't well attached as I understand it.

    JL
     
    JL, Nov 21, 2005
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  18. Baileyana

    JL Guest

    OY ! I resemble that remark, well I'll have you know my life came in off
    back order last week

    JL
     
    JL, Nov 21, 2005
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  19. A suspect a bloke up the road would call them limb extractors if he could
    still talk... or breathe.
     
    Pisshead Pete, Nov 21, 2005
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  20. Doesn't sound too good.

    Was this in Australia? Looks like I'll have to google it after all...

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Nov 21, 2005
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