This could be interesting

I've already copped for the over-generalisation rap. Sure, I know
plenty of women who like solitude to; however, in relationship terms,
I'm suggesting it's more typically a male trait.

Yeah, we do that. But, ime, usually just in a "moaning to the lads"
style.

Good question. I can only answer by example. If you look in a big
newsagent (e.g. WH Smiths) there's shelves and shelves of "hobby"
magazines, most of which would typically be male activities.

Er, what I'm badly saying is....while my initial "tagger-on" criticism
was based on a number of instances I've seen over the years, I've also
known a number of women who understand/accept the male "go away/come
back" behaviour.

 

Well, inflammatory isn't the same as being a wind-up merchant. And
I'd still say that most of the inflammatory things I might have said I
do actually mean.

Come on - put up or shut up

 

Social acceptance.

No, but as an illustration of my point I think it works OK. Stop
nit-picking and come up with a counter argument - what do women do as
hobbies?

 

http://olsonm.dsl.visi.com/misc/photos/photos.html

How does she get on with wearing those hideous jeans with all that foam
padding around the arse? They might be safe, but don't they stink in
hot weather? Makes her look a bit bloated anyway.

 

A hobby is a marketing opportunity waiting to be exploited.

 

They don't belch.
They don't fart.
If they didn't *wail* they would explode!

 

What women's interests and hobbies are these then? Take mine: cooking,
backgammon, motorcycling, photography, playing keyboards and guitar,
singing ... several of which Owen has taken up; some others of which
were already interests/hobbies of his anyway.

And take one of Owen's: making up plastic model kits. Yes, I could do
it without censure, but it's something I grew out of when I was about
12.

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^^^

*Ding* and here we have the main difference between men and women's
hobbies

 

Verdigris wrote

A properly trained woman only has one interest and no hobbies.

 

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:57:49 +0000, Lozzo wrote:

Are you sure that shouldn't be the other way round?

 

Most of the examples I can think of show a marked tendancy towards
creative (craft not art) and (almost) practicality. e.g. Knitting,
crochet and all the other typical WI stuff. DIY - but more decorating
than carpentry and plumbing.

There are also a lot of other passtimes, not usually regarded as hobbies
such as a particular interest in reading, the cinema music (not
performing).

 

I did, quite deliberately say it was a "gross generalisation". Or are you
suggesting that your interests are typical of middle-aged, married women?

 

Er, I should think so. Let's see: cooking - check. Backgammon - check,
maybe not backgammon but some kind of gambling game, possibly bridge.
Motorcycling: maybe more driving. Photography: check, Halla has also
mentioned. Playing music: check, again, Halla mentions. OK, so I
didn't say crafty things, which are very common, and also one of my
interests, but I do that as a job, so I guess it doesn't count.

We always (these days) make our Christmas pressies. One year candles,
another wine glass collars. This year it's home made choccies with
home made boxes, thus combining cooking and crafts, so maybe craft
does count.

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Are all of these really hobbies? (Not saying they aren't: just want to be
sure.) For example, I take photos on holiday etc but I wouldn't describe
photography as a hobby. To do so, I think it needs to be taken rather
more seriously.

Similarly, I can play backgammon and enjoy the occasional game, but I
wouldn't call that a hobby. But when I used to play bridge and went to
clubs and took part in competitions, and read books on strategies and
conventions etc - that I'd call a hobby.

I disagree that most of those are typical, too. I know very few women who
are actually interested in motoring - on 2 or 4 wheels - beyond as a means
of transport. Likewise backgammon/bridge/whatever: not UNfeminine,
obviously, but not all that common either.[1]

[1] Most of the women in my family play cards and boardgames, but in every
case it's a social thing NOT for the sake of the game. I think that rules
it out as a hobby. I used to enjoy the social aspect of going to the
bridge club but it wasn't why I was there, and I would have happily played
all evening without speaking to a soul.

 

Yes - see below.

I've been interested in photography since I was about 9 years old.
Always things rather than people. I studied it as part of my degree
(communications) in my 30s. I have 5 cameras. I specialise in urban
decay. Does that count?

I used to be a mid-ranking backgammon tournament player; I started
Reading backgammon club, using an online backgammon community as the
seed. I met Owen through that club, BTW. I play most days against a
neural net on my PC - world class player and I often win. I have
several books on the subject. I think that counts then.

I know quite a few women who enjoy driving, though perhaps not really
a hobby. But think of Beelzebub who does rallying, as an example.

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I *love* backgammon. I used to think I was good until I met a Turk who
beat me hollow. Every game.

 

I've read your other posts with Verdigris, and either you're doing the
typical usenet arguing-for-the-sake of it, or you haven't the faintest
idea what average women are like. Remember, we're talking in
*general* terms here.

Photography: overwhelmingly a male hoppy, as evidenced by the degree
of female nudity on show in photography magazines
Backgammon/cards/etc: dunno. A significant majority of gamblers are
male, tho.
Motorcycling/driving: Are you having a laugh? I doubt 1% of women
would list this as a hobby of theirs. Just because Beez is into don't
mean diddly (she'd be the first to admit she's weird, anyway).
Music: more potential here, but what %age of bands have female
members? I used to be a regular visitor to music shops and rarely saw
women in them. The magazines are very obviously orientated to men.


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Practically their national sport, innit? ;-)
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I got the impression he'd been weaned on it, yes....

 

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