[QUOTE="porl"] That bit's true. But while being in control of a vehicle that can do so much damage entails a lot of that responsibility the pedestrian can't be absolved of some degree as well. Drunken dickheads lurching all over the shop wielding mobile phones while unaware of anything else shouldn't be exempt from the same responsiblity.[/QUOTE] Skip the bit about mobile phones, and this is what happened to me many many moons ago - pisshead launched himself out in front of my car, next thing I knew, it was like the bit in Jurassic Park where the T-Rex gawps in through the car window... well at least I think it was; it was a bit difficult to see too much through the shattered remains of the screen, what with all the blood from his head and my split knuckles, all over it. Chappie in question admitted he'd had a few when I visited him in hospital. Anyway... I was absolved of all blame by plod (eventually), and I actually sold the car and went back to a TZR125 for a while, as I felt too vulnerable in a car for a while after that.