There's no fun like clutch fun! 1980 CB750F

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by tokenhire, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. tokenhire

    tokenhire Guest

    Hello all humans far brighter than I!

    Recently took my 1980 CB750F on a two hour highway trek to NYC.

    Pulled into a reststop a little over half an hour into the trip. As I
    pulled onto the ramp and began to downshift, the clutch handle felt
    funny. I initially chalked it up to my hands stiffening in the cold,
    pre dawn air. However, I noticed as I approached a toll barrier that
    I pulled the clutch lever in and the rpm drop was noted, but minimal.
    I released the leaver and tried again, this time the rpm dropped down
    to idle range.

    By the time I hit the stop and go traffic in the city, I noticed that
    I would stall if I stood in gear with the clutch engaged and I could
    not get into neutral unless I was moving. Makes for a fun trip in
    such a desolate town.

    Oil was recently changed, air temp started at 40 and was up to 70 by
    the time I reached my destination. Tweaking the cable length adjuster
    on the lever cuff seemed to have no impact. Around town here, I seem
    to have some struggles with it, but it's not as clear from where the
    trouble is sourcing as there are some other excitements that the bike
    is suddenly sharing with me.

    Did the mech (and I will NOT be offended if it is the case) use the
    wrong oil, cheap oil, etc.? Does the clutch need to be professionally
    adjusted? Is it shot?
     
    tokenhire, Oct 20, 2007
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  2. Um, clutches aren't connected to throttles.
    If you don't know how to adjust it, ask SWK. It could be shot, yes, but
    correct adjustment is the first stage.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 20, 2007
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  3. This is only true if someone's using very pricey synthetic car oils,
    some of which have friction modifiers that do make a clutch slip.

    Hopwever, this is very rare, and the fact is that his symptoms don't
    indicate that. His clutch is not slipping.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 20, 2007
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  4. tokenhire

    imf Guest



    No, you're right. Clutches aren't connected to throttles. The do,
    however, influence RPM. Normally when I pull in the clutch lever (and
    naturally throttle down) the RPM's tend to drop. In this case, the
    engine maintained RPM's with the clutch lever pulled in. In some
    cases there was a very slight drop, others none. As the day warmed,
    the difficulty became less pronounced. Interestingly, this was the
    first trip on an interstate, so I was now doing 75 mph for a sustained
    period.

    Your thoughts...?
     
    imf, Oct 21, 2007
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  5. I'm wondering whether it's got the wrong grade of oil in it, but I'd
    still start with adjusting it right.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 21, 2007
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  6. tokenhire

    imf Guest


    Off the top of my head, I don't recall the oil grade. The local
    dealer set me up with a number of things I requested over the phone
    and I just picked up a box of stuff to deliver to the mechanic. I
    will call him tomorrow and ask (closed on Mondays).

    Since this seems like the least expensive and simplest of the possible
    remedies, I'll give an oil change a shot. When it came time to do the
    oil, the guy who worked on the bike suggested leaving the old filter
    in, replace the existing oil with a cheap brand, running the bike
    around town briefly (30 miles or so) to clean out any residue or
    deposits, then replace the filter and use the oil I had purchased from
    the dealer (Suzuki brand four stroke).

    I took the bike out yesterday for a stretch to get a feel for the
    behavior. I noticed twice that when I was trying to downshift from
    5th to 4th and once from 4th to 3d (separate events) there was that
    first-gear-rejection grinding as though it was in neutral. As the day
    wore on I would have to find nuetral at speed as the gear shift would
    go past it as I went from first to second and back several times when
    still.
     
    imf, Oct 22, 2007
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  7. This guy is an incompetent arse-wipe.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 22, 2007
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  8. tokenhire

    oldgeezer Guest

    Or a smart-ass who knows how to sell extra oil.
    If he's really smart he resells it to his next victim. It has only 30
    miles on the clock. Or maybe 60, or 90...

    Rob.
     
    oldgeezer, Oct 23, 2007
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  9. Heh. You have a nasty mind.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 23, 2007
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