Theory Test?

I have a full car licence (and have had for about 10 years)...having now
seen the light and decided to take the DAS can anyone tell me if I still
have to do the motorcycle theory test?

I read somewhere that if you have a full car licence this exempts you from
the theory test...

thx, Connell.

 

Yupp, and CBT.

Used to be the case up until about two (three?) years ago.

 

Yes, but if you've been driving for 10 years it's a piece of piss. One
would hope.


--
John

SV650
Black it is
and naked

 

Aye.

 

The requirement for the theory test for existing drivers came in on 1st Feb
2001 and I passed my DAS on 26th Jan 2001, phew!

 

Yes, but be careful not to react too quickly on the hazard perception test
(hpt), and cars in front braking for a junction don't count apparently.
Still, no excuse for missing the fire engine.

You can buy a book from WHSmith etc., but if you've been driving for 10
years, I wouldn't bother really. The hpt has a preparation video thing that
I got from DVLC when they wrote to confirm date/time of the theory test -
watch it with someone who's done the hpt or someone who's qualified as
advanced driver/rider and get them to score you. If you can be arsed. It's
not difficult.


Angus
IMANASS#9

 

It is, but I still revised. The last question was one I looked up in
the book only the night before. Got 100% in it.

 

There is a CD rom which you can get from the DVLA which runs you through
the test procedure and is a doddle.

 

I see your point. I was under the misapprehension that you took the
advanced anyway.

--
Lesley
ZXR400SP
"Not bad for a Scouser"
SBS#11[with oak-leaf cluster]
BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
BONY#54P BOB#18

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I did my advanced (car) but failed for going to quickly through a set of
roadworks. There was no temporary speed limit, just temporary lights, I
slowed to 40, he seemed to think 25 to 30 was more appropriate. I knew the
roadworks (drove past them 3 or 4 times previously), he didn't; there was
no-one working on them, etc., etc.

TBH I thought the whole thing was a bunch of arse anyhows. I tried to get
someone to tell me why you should gently accellarate through a corner, they
told me a bunch of crap about how, "because your changing direction, your
accellerating anyway, so you need to accellarate to be safe in the corner".
A bit like saying the moon is round because it is made of cheese and cheese
can be made into balls.

There are other elements of it that I fundamentally disagree with as well,
like not speeding or overtaking on solid white lines (which I know are law
so IAM can't really be advocating breaking them, but when pushed most of the
ADs I've spoken to still, reliously, stick to these elements in the name of
safe driving).

 

I packed in the IAM for similar reasons. Every observer I had had
different ideas about where you should be positioned on the road in
town. They also insisted that as soon as you saw a right turn ahead you
move to the left verge, sometimes with quite a long way to go. As far
as I could tell this gave you no increased visability around the bend
and a higher chance of coming a cropper on roadside crap.

--
John

SV650
Black it is
and naked

 

The standard DSA test, IAM, and ROADA are all about following a set of
rules and they often conflict. All the test proves is that you are capable
of riding according to these rules, the fact that you can do so even if
you don't agree with them shows that you have achieved some level of
competence. That's my 2c anyway.

Paul

 

Yeah, there are a few bike-related questions[1] that you would not
automagically know just from having road sense. Like how wide the
trailer can be and stuff. Not worth risking as you can only get 5 (?)
questions wrong. Not that I got any wrong either (but then i could
sell you the book that I bought: it was 12 quid new, if you want to
make me an offer.

[1] What, in a motorcycle theory test? How odd!

 

I think I've also got an inbuilt aversion to them, too, as my dad got kicked
out of IAM...

....for overtaking a caravan on double whites. The trafcop that stopped him
said that he could see that it was perfectly safe for my dad to overtake on
double whites, so, in his judgement, he didn't warrant a fine under the law,
however, as the area "judge"[1] for IAM he'd broken IAM driving rules and
his IAM membership was now invalid. The trafcop got in touch with IAM, told
them, and on trafcops recommendation kicked him out.

Now presumably IAM had him as the area "judge", because of his driving
skills[2], experience[3] and professional status[4]. So the law allows him
to take a professional judgement[5] and not prosecute, but the IAM doesn't.
Bunch of anal arseholes[6].


[1] Or whatever they're called in the IAM, "Special Advisors", "Area Safety
Policy Coordinator" or whatever.
[2] As stated by Paul above, the skills to stick to their rules blindly and
unquestioningly.
[3] Which could be as little as a couple of dozen hours of driving to become
a trafcop.
[4] As a traffic cop, prob. Part I qualified, or whatever it is.
[5] Not necessarily that the law "allows" him, he considered it not DWDC&A
or DD or whatever the offence would be.
[6] In that all arseholes are anal, but this one especially so.


Angus
SV650s DT125R <- what do al these f***ing letters stand for anyway?
IMANASS#9

 

Like the motorbike specific stopping distances? ;-)


Angus
SV650s DT125R <- what do all these f***ing letters stand for anyway?
IMANASS#9

 

Er, not unless it was a road-making caravan.

 

I'm in pretty much the same position as you, and took my theory test
last Wednesday. For some reason, I got really hung up on failing the
hazard perception element, so did invest in the DSA's DVD on the
subject. My 'worries' were exagarated somewhat because a friend, and a
very intelligent individual to boot, failed his test on hazard
perception a couple of weeks earlier.

Thankfully, the test itself was relatively easy, and the worries
unfounded. The trick is to 'click' when you see ANY hazard, and
'click' again if you see that hazard becoming more of the threat. For
example, in one clip you see a woman running down the side of the
road; 'click', then you see a bus coming in the opposite direction
'click'; then the woman stats waving for the bus 'click'; then the the
woman runs out infront of you to catch the bus 'click'.

In this example, the woman probably became the 'scorable' hazard when
she starting waving for the bus (this scoring you 5/5 for that test);
if you waited until she started crossing your score would have been
lower.

14 Video clips; 1 minute each, 15 Hazards; Pass mark of 44/75.

I'm a 10 year plus cage driver, and I managed 75/75, so it really can
not be too hard.