The truck decision

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Fraser Johnston, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. In keeping with my promise to do some on topic threads. Today I had the thing
    I call the truck decision on the ride to work. I was in the left lane doing
    slightly (3kph) over the limit and in the right lane was a b double doing
    slightly under the limit. My decision was to keep my speed and slowly overtake
    him on the left or slow down, gun it past him or slow right down and stay
    behind. I hate pulling past big trucks because the fuckers invariably start to
    pull over on you and you have 30 metres to get past them or slam on the brakes.
    So my decision was to drop a gear, gun it past then drop back to my original
    speed. It meant for less time in that danger zone next to him. It was a 70
    zone and I probably touched 100kph making me a baby killer. What would you of
    done?
     
    Fraser Johnston, Sep 24, 2010
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  2. Fraser Johnston

    G-S Guest

    If I didn't have much spare time left during my trip to work I'd have
    done what you did, if I was running early and had spare time I'd
    probably have hung back.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Sep 24, 2010
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  3. I recall about 15 years ago my mum was telling me a story that a truck
    had moved over on her pretty much around the place that Cat died on
    the Southern Outlet in Launceston. I quizzed her about it. She said
    that she had my nephew in the car. He would have only been 4-5 years
    old.

    So instead of steadily overtaking the semi, she steadily sat in his
    blind spot and was saying "Look Justin - a big truck".

    I gave her a damn good dressing down for being such an idiot. They
    both could have died.
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Sep 24, 2010
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  4. And she said to Justin
    " Look Justin, a big truck
    he's moving over, Holy ****"
     
    George W Frost, Sep 24, 2010
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  5. Fraser Johnston

    hippo Guest

    <Pedant Hat on>
    I would *of* paid more attention in school.
    That's what I would *have* done!
    <off>
    :D
     
    hippo, Sep 24, 2010
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  6. Fraser Johnston

    Lars Chance Guest

    Yeah I hold back through any curves (do you have them in WA?) but then
    get by as quick as is practical on the straight; bike or car.
    I do *not* like being alongside any vehicles but especially big vehicles.
     
    Lars Chance, Sep 24, 2010
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  7. Fraser Johnston

    Lars Chance Guest

    Could *of* died, Kev. Duuh!
     
    Lars Chance, Sep 24, 2010
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  8. Doesn't it depend a bit on what you're riding? And the speed limit?
    VFR800 in a 70km/h zone is one thing; Super Sherpa in a 110km/h zone is
    quite another.
     
    Andrew McKenna, Sep 24, 2010
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  9. Fraser Johnston

    G-S Guest

    True it does, my response on the scooter (despite it's ability to cruise
    ok in 100kph zones at the speed limit) would have been quite different
    to what it'd be on the 1100 or even the 650.

    G-S
     
    G-S, Sep 25, 2010
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  10. Deafinertly a know know
     
    George W Frost, Sep 25, 2010
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  11. Fraser Johnston

    Deevo Guest

    Well, first I would have been wondering why the truck was in the right lane.
    Usually this means they've moved over to make a right turn or have seen an
    obstruction further ahead in the left lane. In general I've found truck
    drivers to be pretty good in that respect (though there are a few cowboys
    around here at harvest time). If I had clear visibility I probably would
    have gunned it to pass him but had there been any doubt I would have hung
    back.
     
    Deevo, Sep 25, 2010
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  12. Fraser Johnston

    The Raven Guest

    Risk minimisation! The longer you stay next to the truck the greater the
    exposure time to that risk. The quicker you get past him the less likely you
    two will ever be close again, slowing down would mean you'd probably be in
    the same position a few K's down the road (at the first uphill incline).

    Someone may argue that speeding up increases the risk, but if you could
    quantitatively measure accumulated risk for this situation getting past the
    truck is poses the least risk overall.
     
    The Raven, Sep 26, 2010
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  13. Oooooh! Hitherto unrevealed secret passion. [Smirk]
     
    Andrew McKenna, Sep 26, 2010
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  14. I reckon that rule applies to all traffic. But yes, especially trucks.

    I don't want any big bits of steel near me when riding. Whether that
    means I speed up or slow down to get my soft vulnerable body away from
    them I don't care. I don't want the big hurty things near me when
    riding.

    Yes, it is unavoidable at times. But I try to minimise it as much as I
    can.
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Sep 26, 2010
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  15. Fraser Johnston

    VTR250 Guest

    I'm a wet blanket.

    I think you may have done the right thing, depending on the road and
    the time of day. Part of me says you broke a rule but the reason why
    we have judges is because the rules aren't perfect and, as you thought
    there was a danger you could justify going faster to escape it. OTOH,
    part of me says that you also had the option of slowing down, which is
    legal. but this might have been just as much of a hazard if there
    were other vehicles bearing down on you. Safest is not always
    slower... only 99.97% of the time.

    I'm not necessarily talking about defending a ticket but what would
    you would have to say to the loss assessor if you did have an accident.
     
    VTR250, Sep 26, 2010
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  16. Fraser Johnston

    VTR250 Guest

    Fraser, I'm assuming you were traveling on a rural freeway. Was the
    shoulder sealed? In other words did you have the option of going left
    if the truck started to come over?
     
    VTR250, Sep 28, 2010
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  17. Curves???????????? About the only thing I miss about Melbourne is being so
    close to the Black Spur, Reefton Spur and the Great Ocean Road.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Sep 29, 2010
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  18. That's the way I see it. You reduce the window of risk. Truck was not
    changing back to the left lane any time soon and the road ahead was dead clear
    and good visibility for at least 500 metres.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Sep 29, 2010
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  19. Fraser, I'm assuming you were traveling on a rural freeway. Was the
    shoulder sealed? In other words did you have the option of going left
    if the truck started to come over?


    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    No it was Leach highway. 2 lane 70 zone in a commercial zone. No side
    streets. There was enough gap so if the truck had moved as I started
    accelerating I would of still easily made it even if he didn't see me.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Sep 29, 2010
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  20. Fraser Johnston

    G-S Guest

    You're not missing much!

    Most of the roads you've mentioned are now posted 80kph limits and so
    heavily policed it's not worth riding along them.

    The police have taken to pulling over motorcyclists sticking to the
    speed limit now, probably because they're down on speeding fines now
    that they've driven away most of the sports bikes and they're getting
    desperate for ticket quota.

    Starting to hear increasing numbers of tales of people being booked for
    tail tidies, mufflers, blinkers and other common and harmless modifications.


    G-S


    G-S
     
    G-S, Sep 29, 2010
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