After listening to advice from many sources, I've revised and narrowed down my choices to 3 bikes (spending up to £2500): Suzuki VX800 - twin, shaft drive, etc, etc. Suzuki SV650S - twin, loads around, 'enough' power, etc, etc. Suzuki GSF600 Bandit - multi, loads around, probably 'insurable', etc, etc. If it's insurable at a reasonable price for TPF&T (it should be - it's only group 9/10), then I think it'll be the SV (the S is the half faired one isn't it?). On paper at least, it's not far behind the 600 Bandit in terms of real world performance, and it's got the noise only a twin can make :-) So my question(s) is: Anyone got one? Any good with a pillion? Anything in particular I should look out for? Dale Turley [URL]http://www.practicalclassics.btinternet.co.uk[/URL] '39 Standard Flying 8 '66 Singer Vogue IV (Brit Difrunt) '71 Triumph Herald 13/60 convertible (Brit Rusty!) '73 Austin 1800 MKIII '01 Peugeot 306 Meridian '02 Citroen C3 1.4HDi 16v Exclusive