The shortlist...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by MrT, Nov 18, 2003.

  1. MrT

    MrT Guest

    After listening to advice from many sources, I've revised and narrowed down
    my choices to 3 bikes (spending up to £2500):

    Suzuki VX800 - twin, shaft drive, etc, etc.
    Suzuki SV650S - twin, loads around, 'enough' power, etc, etc.
    Suzuki GSF600 Bandit - multi, loads around, probably 'insurable', etc, etc.

    If it's insurable at a reasonable price for TPF&T (it should be - it's only
    group 9/10), then I think it'll be the SV (the S is the half faired one
    isn't it?). On paper at least, it's not far behind the 600 Bandit in terms
    of real world performance, and it's got the noise only a twin can make :)
    So my question(s) is:
    Anyone got one?
    Any good with a pillion?
    Anything in particular I should look out for?
    Dale Turley
    http://www.practicalclassics.btinternet.co.uk
    '39 Standard Flying 8
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    MrT, Nov 18, 2003
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    Ben Guest

    I was insuring one, aged 24 with 4 points and a years NCB for 700 quid
    fully comp. However, I had had my licence for around 5 years at the
    time.
    In the real world it feels quicker. I had mine for a year and the
    replaced it with a GSXR750. The GSXR went in for a service and I had
    an SV650s one day and then a Bandit 6 the day after as courtesy bikes.
    In a straight line the Bandit was a little faster but there was bugger
    all in it. The SV handled better and being lighter was a bit more fun
    to chuck around. The Bandit really doesn't have enough power for it's
    weight. The torque of the SV is also handy.
    It's a bit strangled by the standard can though. A race can
    apparently gives around 10bhp.
    heh, had, but would have another as a second bike.
    Not bad. I took a few pillions and non complained about it, although
    they were just 'out for a blast' type rides, rather than touring type.

    Looking back at your original post where you describe you and your
    pillions height and weight you should have no problems. It won't be
    stunningly quick but it'll go. You have to put the preload of the
    rear suspension up to the max though. Easy job as the supplied
    toolkit includes a C-spanner for doing this.
    Usual secondhand bike stuff really. They're pretty sturdy and I can't
    think of anything particular to the SV. As with any Suzuki corrosion
    on the brakes is a pain and can lead to them sticking a bit. Also the
    front exhaust pipe is pretty exposed so an older one may have rusted a
    bit.

    They do suffer a bit from carb icing, but I never found it too much of
    a problem.

    Get one, they good fun bikes.
     
    Ben, Nov 18, 2003
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  3. MrT wrote
    Wasting good BHP accelerating some fat arse other than your own.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 18, 2003
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  4. MrT

    christofire Guest

    Yes. Pillions I've taken all loved it. One did mention it could've
    been a bit more comfy, but she was the only one. As the bike is quite
    thin filtering through smaller gaps gets possible. Don't forget about a
    pillion as they are now the widest part of the bike.
    Forks go bouncy, swap the oil for thicker stuff. Other than that, just
    watch out for the fun police.
     
    christofire, Nov 18, 2003
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  5. MrT

    Higgins@work Guest

    Posting from Google so probably hours behind here but anyway
    Fine unless you and your pillion are utter lard arses.
    If it's pre-2001 listen out for rattling camchain. Later models had a
    revised tensioner fitted.
    IMO it's way ahead of the 600 bandit in just about every parameter[1].
    It handles better and the power delivery is far superior. Suspension
    can be cheap and nasty and, apparently, the rear shock doesn't last
    too long[2].
    Your sig sep's fucked[3][4]

    [1]Except number of cylinders of course
    [2]Mine seems to be fine, but what do I know
    [3]Or, to be precise, it's missing.
    [4]I've been reading this group too long, methinks
     
    Higgins@work, Nov 18, 2003
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  6. MrT

    jsp Guest

    ITYF that the SV is one insurance group lower than the Bandit. I don't
    know why, though.
    Don't be fooled. I had a Bandit 6 before the current SV and IMHO the SV
    is better. Having more low down torque it pulls away better, and pulls
    out of corners better. It's 10 bhp down on the Bandit, but is also 40kg
    lighter. The SV handles better and is excellent for work in traffic.
    See above, and below. (although not the 's' version)
    Fine. In the summer I put the wife on the back for a week's touring and
    all went well. I think she found the Bandit slightly more comfortable,
    but had no complaints about the SV. The twin's torque makes carrying a
    pillion easier, too.
    Sure, but to be honest, others will answer that better than me.

    Oh, fit a Scottoiler. If, by some chance, you end up with a K3 version
    (unlikely on that budget) I can send some pics of how to fit it.


    --
    John

    SV650
    Black it is
    and naked
     
    jsp, Nov 18, 2003
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  7. MrT

    MrT Guest

    Thanks everyone.
    I'd better go and try one for size, but it looks like the SV will be the
    weapon of choice. Build up a bit of NCB, then get something
    bigger/better/faster/quicker/pricier/etc. SV1000S..?
    Cheers.
    Dale
     
    MrT, Nov 18, 2003
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  8. MrT

    MrT Guest

    ""Your sig sep's fucked[3][4]""

    ?????????
    Confused, I am...
    Dale
     
    MrT, Nov 18, 2003
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  9. MrT

    Alan.T.Gower Guest

    I thought this was another Alan Gower thread. ;o)


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    Alan.T.Gower, Nov 18, 2003
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  10. MrT

    DangerScouse Guest

    Crikey, she must be fussy as it is a damn site more comfortable than
    being pillion on an R6.
    --
    Lesley
    ZXR400SP
    "Not bad for a Scouser"
    SBS#11[with oak-leaf cluster]
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    Un-cork me to reply
     
    DangerScouse, Nov 19, 2003
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  11. MrT

    christofire Guest

    I'm thinking of test riding one of these soon. I'll let you know how it
    compares.
     
    christofire, Nov 19, 2003
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  12. MrT

    christofire Guest

    Got a bit of a lean-on?
     
    christofire, Nov 19, 2003
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  13. MrT

    christofire Guest

    Do all these 20s mean my posting's up the spout?
     
    christofire, Nov 19, 2003
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  14. Yes.

    HTH.
     
    William Grainger, Nov 19, 2003
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  15. I'm only getting them from users of Gravity. Character set thingy, I
    think. Oddly, it's only happened since I re-installed Agent with exactly
    the same settings as before.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6? DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#16? FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 19, 2003
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