The NSW EPA gets better and better

The whole noise thing gets funnier. Or sadder, depening on how much
water is in your glass I guess.

Not very long ago at all, a gentleman bought a brand new 2004 model
Kawasaki, a ZX12 I believe. With the stationary noise test label clear
on the frame as required by ADRs.

He was stopped, fined, and defected.

Why? Because the stationary noise level as allowed by the latest ADR
for bikes that conform to the European standard for exhaust noise is not
the same as allowed by everyone's favourite state agency.

Yup, this brand new bike is illegal to ride on NSW roads in stock trim.

And can't be modified to make it legal without voiding the warranty, and
quite probably *can't* be made legal at the moment, aftermarket bits not
being available, and no information as to what restricting the exhaust
will do to the fuel mapping and ignition curves.

The owner is taking it back to the dealer, and demanding a full refund,
plus they pay his fines. It was not "fit for purpose" as sold to him, a
citizen of NSW, in NSW.

So here we have a new bike, meeting all federal requirements, legal in
all states but NSW.... And it's quite probable that it's not just
ZX12s! If you are in NSW and planning to buy a new bike, make sure the
dealer promises in writing that it is fully legal to ride on the road in
NSW.

Zebee

 

I assume to get the dealers to hound and beat the EPA into submission?

 

Get him to Contact Michael Richardson (NSW Shadow minister for the
environment) (speak to Guy first - he may already have done it).

Stan

 

This getting fscking absurd!

Don't think I'll be bringing my bike anywhere near NaziSouthWales for
a while ...

Cheers

 

No this is seriously good news.....

Do we know by whom? Cops EPA?

Seems a reasonable ask.....

Can't see their sticker-tax surviving something as stupid as this.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Sounds like a classic case for the likes of "Today Tonight" or "A
Current Affair".

Any actual proof of this available online? Reported anywhere?

DaZZa

 

So, we have speeding fine nazis in Vic, exhaust nazis in NSW, what Nazis
have the other state governments got up their sleeves?

 

Sounds like a classic case for the likes of "Today Tonight" or "A

In all seriousness, this is a BRILLIANT idea. They would take this on, for
sure.

 

I would be interested to find out where this occurred to see if the problem
appears specific to one region (ie. North Region) as I have had no problems
with this type of harrassment since moving to the Illawarra region.

Before moving however I lived on the Central Coast and was always pulled
over for 'random vehicle' or licence checks when on the bike. Never did this
occur when I was in the car.

Whilst the rules are there it takes someone to enforce them and if it can be
shown that the enforcement is not statewide but is limited to only a small
area then a case of over zelousness (or harrasment of a minority group) can
be shown and the MCC could take this up.

Maybe we as a group or the MCC could seek feedback as to how widespread the
issue is.


Garry

 

Yer that Dollar would make all the difference in the grand scheme of
things

 

I look forward to reading about it in the SMH

 

Woodchip industry nazis in Tasmania

 

Perth is further north than Sydney ...
- sanbar

 

What is the legal standard for exhaust noise in NSW? Can it be expressed
in dB? Would this tell me whether my new bike is legal?

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 13 Jul 2004 15:13:02 GMT

I believe it's expressed as compliance with a *given* ADR. ADR39 or 39a,
can't recall.

Effectively, 94dB.

The new ADR uses the Euro driveby test, but crucially doesn't give an
upper limit for the stationary test if the driveby is passed. And some
bikes pass the driveby but have a louder stationary than 94.

Your bike should have an ADR sticker or plate with the stationary
measurement on it. If it's more than 94dB, then you can be fined and
your bike defected in NSW.

Zebee

 

Yes, well... and another NSW statutory body is more than happy to also take the money and REGISTER the bike for road use in NSW.


RTA and EPA .... what a bunch of clowns.


SURELY THIS SHOULD RATE HIGH INTEREST/LOW INTELLECT FACTOR FOR :-

A Current Affair

Today Tonight

 

I look forward to seeing it on TV.

Current Affair etc. love this kind of bureaucratic bungling stuff.

 

Erm....bugger. My '9 has a noise compliance sticker saying it should have a
KHI445 exhaust system (which it does - ie, stock) and stationary noise
reading of 96db. Ummm, am I screwed now, or is it ok coz it was legal back
in 2002 when I bought it? (Shaddup Nev).

James
ZZR250->ZX9R

 

Was checking tyres the other day and read the exhaust sticker for the
first time, 93.5dB on standard Busa so there's no way those Yoshi's
are going to get through NSW ...

So how often and where are they doing noise checks in NSW?

Cheers

 

Where in the Illawarra are you? If you get around in the Lake Illawarra
patrol or Dapto Highway patrol areas (HWP do the F6 to basically Waterfall,
and Lake Ill. handle almost anything south of about Kanahooka) you might
get some attention - usually during summer though. I've been pulled over a
few times, twice within 20min one day, but they're usually fairly quick
about the whole thing....doesn't stop me getting the shits though. Still,
if it weeds out the unlicensed wankers I guess it's a good thing.

BTW - you checked out some of the "good" rides down this way? If not
contact me off-list and I'd be happy for an excuse to cruise around the
mountains with you james AT grayonline [dot] id {dot} au

James
ZZR250->ZX9R