The new, new, new MOT certificate

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip, Jun 16, 2005.

  1. Pip

    Pip Guest

    Had Elly's bike tested today and succeeded in obtaining one of the
    very latest printed-out VT20 pass certificates. They look, feel and
    generally are /awful/ compared to the rather nicely traditional
    previous iteration. No pressed-in stamp, no watermarking, no
    photocopy-proof banknote-type fine, munticoloured lines or nuffink.

    Society takes another step backwards, I reckon - but of course it is
    computer-generated (well, the printing is) and will therefore be on
    record with VOSA (Vehicle and Operator Services Agency) by now. This
    means that Plod can check instantly of course, so no need for HORT1
    producers any more, eh?

    I also tripped over a site the other day that yer ornery punter can
    check MOT status for specific vehicles, so it may even become a useful
    tool, I suppose.
    www.motinfo.gov.uk if you're interested.


    What strikes me as less than useful is the equally computer-generated
    VT32 Advisory Note sheet. Just one entry:

    " offside front lower Brake Component worn but not seriously reduced
    in strength [3.2.A1] "

    The tester had left the building by the time we collected the bike,
    and nobody had any idea what this actually meant. The computer gives
    a limited number of options apparently, and the closest one should be
    selected.

    It turned out to mean that the brake pads will need changing sometime
    before the next test. I knew that. Bah.
     
    Pip, Jun 16, 2005
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  2. <sigh> no they won't.


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    Dnc
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    Doesnotcompute, Jun 17, 2005
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  3. Pip

    Pip Guest

    Good. I do try to be helpful, you know.
     
    Pip, Jun 17, 2005
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  4. Pip

    Pip Guest

    I thought they could - already, as the inscos databases are online and
    available to Plod.
     
    Pip, Jun 17, 2005
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  5. Pip wrote:

    So when I TWOC Loz's gixxer next friday afternoon, how is plod going to
    know whether I'm insured or not until they give me a producer?

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    Dnc
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    B1200 - Back ~|~ VS800 - borked
    TS150 - squatting ~|~ V2300 - flat cap and rug

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jun 17, 2005
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  6. Pip

    Pip Guest

    PNC ... interrogate ... ask you "the question" ... handcuffs ...
    station steps ... 12" strapons without lube - that sort of thing.
     
    Pip, Jun 17, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Pip says...
    You forgot the battering with the old RD400 fork tube that I'll give
    him when he's bailed.
     
    Lozzo, Jun 17, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    They'll just RFID his implanted chip. Then, if they decide he's done
    something naughty, they send a "void from every orifice" signal to his chip.
    Stop him in his tracks, that will.
     
    platypus, Jun 17, 2005
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  9. *Ding*, all they could tell from a PNC is whether there is an insurance
    policy dedicated to that vehicle - not whether it's correctly covered at
    the time of use.

    Although you missed my deliberate mistake. If I TWOC the gixxer, I'm not
    covered on my CIHAGM section of insurance. Only with permission.

    From the owner natch.


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    B1200 - Back ~|~ VS800 - borked
    TS150 - squatting ~|~ V2300 - flat cap and rug

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jun 17, 2005
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  10. They're not reliable enough. There's so much insurance business done
    each day and then you have the problem of sheer incompetence, laziness
    and system buggeration that plod know the database isn't very good
    through their own experience of it.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 17, 2005
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  11. Lozzo wrote:

    Thanks mate.



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    Dnc
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    B1200 - Back ~|~ VS800 - borked
    TS150 - squatting ~|~ V2300 - flat cap and rug

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jun 17, 2005
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  12. Pip

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Doesnotcompute scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    Hmm. This may actually lead to policies that cover the vehicle instead
    of all this cover the driver/rider bollicks that we've got now...

    I can already see the insewerance cos complaining about it and using it
    as another excuse to hike the premiums.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jun 17, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    What Dnc means, is that they'll be able to tell if the car / bike has a
    policy on it, not if you're the policy holder.
     
    Muck, Jun 17, 2005
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  14. Pip

    Muck Guest

    That'll be good thing to do over here.
     
    Muck, Jun 17, 2005
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    Dan L Guest

    ISTR (from years back) that in Switzerland you could have 2 vehicles but 1
    interchangeable plate.

    Is that right, or a figment of my wine ridden brain this morning?

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    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
    BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Jun 19, 2005
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  16. Pip

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Dan L scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    Nope, that's still the case.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jun 19, 2005
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  17. Pip

    Dan L Guest

    How does that work then? (briefly), especially if you are married, have 2
    cars and wifey also drives one, surely both cars can't be out at the same
    time with identical plates on.

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    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
    BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Jun 19, 2005
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Dan L scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    You're only allowed to drive one of them at any given them, thus you
    only get one set of plates and have to swap them over.

    A lot of people I know in Switzerland use it either to get the car and
    a campervan on the same inswearance policy, or run a couple of bikes...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jun 19, 2005
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    Dan L Guest

    Ahh, similar sort of idea to the old NU Rider policy.

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    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
    BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Jun 19, 2005
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  20. That's too sensible a thing to be adopted anywhere else. Speaking as an
    owner of several motorised things and the only driver of them, it irks
    me to have to shell out money to keep them all on the road when only one
    can be used at any one time.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 19, 2005
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