The law about motorcycle combinations and helmets.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Alasdair Baxter, Sep 6, 2003.

  1. Alasdair Baxter

    Colin Irvine Guest

    I know - very bad form. Reading JP's posts (a man who knows) it
    appears that bigbrian got his facts wrong, and that I have just
    spouted a load of cobblers.

    Nothing new there, then.
     
    Colin Irvine, Sep 6, 2003
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  2. <VBG>

    Move along here, nothing to see.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 6, 2003
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  3. I told him the same thing. Perhaps he'll listen to you.

    What *is* it about uk.legal that, for what is supposedly an erudite ng,
    it attracts the most terminally thick, clueless, argumentative gonks?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 6, 2003
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  4. Alasdair Baxter

    JP Guest


    As the saying goes, "theres a lot of people with nothing much to say
    who are saying it very loudly"
     
    JP, Sep 6, 2003
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  5. Alasdair Baxter

    Mike Guest

    Nobody can be sure of the law until a court interprets it. Some
    magistrates may have decided that the C1 is a motorcycle but that
    doesn't set a precedent any more than the decision of those magistrates
    who decided it isn't. IIUC the Court of Appeal is the lowest that can
    set a precedent so, until the matter is decided there, individual
    magistrates courts are free to decide for themselves.
     
    Mike, Sep 6, 2003
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  6. <G>

    Indeed.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 6, 2003
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  7. Alasdair Baxter

    Ace Guest

    You seem to have added 4 superfluous words at the end of that
    sentence...
     
    Ace, Sep 6, 2003
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  8. Alasdair Baxter

    mb Guest

    The 1800 with ABS is listed as 799 pounds dry, so you can't count the beer
    in the panniers.
    410kg = over 900 pounds.
     
    mb, Sep 6, 2003
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  9. One down from a schlemiel.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 6, 2003
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  10. Alasdair Baxter

    mb Guest

    Ah right. Um, thanks.
     
    mb, Sep 6, 2003
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  11. Alasdair Baxter

    Lozzo Guest

    bigbrian fascinated us all by saying...
    Good old Nosey. If you know him, ask him if he's got the tenner that he
    owes me for the Mk1 Capri alternator I lent him in 1982.

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    Lozzo, Sep 6, 2003
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  12. Alasdair Baxter

    Ace Guest

    So not far off, then. Another year or three and the wing will
    officially be a two-wheeled car.
     
    Ace, Sep 6, 2003
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    Otter Guest

    Otter, Sep 6, 2003
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  14. Alasdair Baxter

    Platypus Guest

    I saw one a couple of munce ago, and the guy was wearing a brown wooly
    Rasta hat. Top chap.

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    Platypus
    VN800 Drifter, R80RT
    DIAABTCOD#2 GPOTHUF#19
    BOTAFOS#6 BOTAFOT#89
    BOB#1 SBS#35 ANORAK#18 TWA#15
     
    Platypus, Sep 6, 2003
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  15. Alasdair Baxter

    Platypus Guest

    I've heard tell of someone who registered a 2wd Ural combo as a trike to
    get around the RHS chair prohibition.

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    Platypus
    VN800 Drifter, R80RT
    DIAABTCOD#2 GPOTHUF#19
    BOTAFOS#6 BOTAFOT#89
    BOB#1 SBS#35 ANORAK#18 TWA#15
     
    Platypus, Sep 6, 2003
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  16. Alasdair Baxter

    bigbrian Guest

    Your example qualifies perfectly, thank you.
    Yeah, right.... whatever you say. Your intellect and your
    predictability shines through with every post. Congratulations. I have
    no doubt that you're actually proud of how you come across.

    Brian
     
    bigbrian, Sep 6, 2003
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  17. Alasdair Baxter

    bigbrian Guest

    Who said otherwise? And the magistrates courts that have gone against
    that decision are..........where?

    Brian
     
    bigbrian, Sep 6, 2003
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  18. Alasdair Baxter

    nss Guest

    No, I meant a cosmetic third-wheel, that more blatantly took the piss, one
    with multicoloured LED's for example, could use it as a tax-disc holder or
    even an ashtray:->

    You'd have to be mad though not to wear a full-face helmet if driving
    anything without a windscreen.

    Not long after I had my bike I learned the value of a helmet and visor
    when I drove through a cloud of midges without one;;;;-(;;

    It was thanks to this first valuable lesson that I was actually wearing a
    full-face helmet when I later went for a 'bit-of-a-spin' round some
    local 'fast' country lanes.

    I was doing about 60mph when I felt a terriffic blow to the front of my
    visor and heard an almighty bang. It felt like a brick but it wasn't, it
    was a large pheasant/partridge type bird which had obviously flown,
    completely unseen, directly across my path.

    I 'just know things would have been very different' if I had not been
    wearing a 'skid-lid'.

    Not much choice about it today though it seems;-/
     
    nss, Sep 7, 2003
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  19. Alasdair Baxter

    Alun Palmer Guest

    You clearly don't understand how to interpret a statute. If it says "on"
    that doesn't cover "in", and that's all there is to it.
     
    Alun Palmer, Sep 7, 2003
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  20. Alasdair Baxter

    Alun Palmer Guest

    Use of the word 'clearly' is usually a sign of a dodgy legal argument, as
    we know in the trade. I am a patent agent, but this is a good general
    principle!
     
    Alun Palmer, Sep 7, 2003
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