The Good Samaritan

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SteveH, Feb 17, 2006.

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    SteveH Guest

    SteveH, Feb 17, 2006
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  2. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Phatso
    *Ginge*

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of
    the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 17, 2006
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    raden Guest

    raden, Feb 17, 2006
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  5. Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 18, 2006
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  6. SteveH

    Cab Guest

    Er, why? So what if it was a ginge, it didn't merit that sort of reply.
     
    Cab, Feb 18, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    Bear said...
    They call it progress, I call it badge engineering.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 18, 2006
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  8. SteveH

    Eiron Guest

    Bear wrote:

    You mean the Corvair, 'Unsafe at any speed'?
    Any videos of the original on the interweb thingy?
    Was it really any worse than a Herald, Spitfire, Beetle or Porsche?
     
    Eiron, Feb 18, 2006
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  9. SteveH

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Bear scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    Indeed. They found the same in Germany when cars with ABS became more
    commonplace. Initially, inswearance companies saw a drop in accidents
    involving cars with ABS, shortly followed by a massive increase as
    people became more dependent on said technology.
    I'd say it very much depends what you're after. TBH the average small
    family car is probably better equipped to deal with the failures of the
    person behind the wheel than it was ten years ago. They can now stamp
    on the brakes as hard as they want to or do the same to the accelerator
    and the car won't get out of shape the way it used to. In that sense
    it's "safer" because people can be stupid behind the wheel without
    being catapulted through a hedge.

    The problem however is that people get dependant on mother's little
    helpers. As a result the skill level of drivers seems to be falling all
    the time, proving again that providing an idiot-proof design results in
    someone providing you with a better idiot.

    A side effect that people who are enthusiastic about driving note but
    that is completely lost on most drivers is that cars have been getting
    less and less involving and thus less fun to drive because every time
    you do something thinking this would be fun, the electronic equivalent
    of a NuLab do-gooder interferes because whatever you're up to is
    clearly bad for you. After all, we know that fun is bad for you...

    While I generally don't have a very high opinion of a certain J
    Clarkson, Esq, his review of the Caterham for the Times
    (http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-1074076,00.html)
    expresses the difference between a modern car (a Merc SL) and an
    enthusiast's car (the Caterham) rather well.

    Fuggedaboutit. The "Road Safety Lobby" shouts loudest about all the
    wrong things in a zealous belief that they're about to improve "Road
    Safety" by imposing more and more rules that no-one can be arsed to
    know about unless they turn up on the front page of the Sun. There is
    no real motoring lobby to balance out the knows-everything-better
    brigade so the brigade mostly gets what they shout about loudest.

    The one, simple change that would make a whole load of problems go away
    is to improve the skills of the drivers but outside of (again)
    enthusiasts circles, no-one seems to be interested in this. Why?

    I guess my paranoid suspicion that this would involve personal
    responsibility is going to ensure that it's dead already. After all, we
    (as in the great unwashed) are clearly not responsible enough which is
    why the scope of personal responsibility must be reduced as much as it
    can be. At the end of the day we cannot let all the fingerwagging go
    unheded.
    Much as it pains me, I have to agree.
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 18, 2006
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  10. SteveH

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Eiron scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    I think he does.
    IIRC, the main problem with the Corsair was that they originally got
    the tyre pressures wrong so the handling was completely off. Once they
    got that under control, the cars were supposed to be pretty good but
    the damage had already been done.

    Don't forget that (AFAIR) the very early Porsche 911 had to have a
    weight installed under the front of the car to cure a few handling
    problems and 356s did have the uncanny ability to leave a bend going
    backwards rather rapidly if the driver lifted the foot off the loud
    pedal mid-bend. But these weren't exactly mass-market cars whereas the
    Corvair was.
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 18, 2006
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  11. Ralph Nader and all the other career safety-nazis who successfully
    managed to take the elemental risk out of driving.
    There's something exciting about driving a heap of shit you know will
    kill you if you make the slightest mistake. Imo, the Heralds, etc were
    real cars; dodgy brakes, leaky windows, shit tyres, and gutless
    performance. All you needed was to shoehorn some humungous lump of Yank
    Iron under the bonnet and create a deathtrap - makes for a fun trip.
    After all, people actually bought the Sunbeam Tiger.
    --
    Dave
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    I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 18, 2006
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    SteveH Guest

    It's been ginged a few times in here and in every other fucking group I
    sub. to at least a couple of times a day since it was first put up....
     
    SteveH, Feb 18, 2006
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  13. Phatso wrote
    I was a Good Samaritan today I was. I regret it mind but I was. It
    wasn't until after I had stopped and offered to help that I realised it
    was a Hardly. I have since prayed for absolution. Although it being
    coincidental with finding the horse shit halfway round a bend in Raweth
    was just that, coincidental.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 18, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I think it's been posted three times on here so it's certainly been
    overdone to put it mildly.

    Not that I should be so forward as to comment because certain posters
    would instantly start claiming I wouldn't have done so if it was a
    regular and what does it matter if something gets posted a few times,
    we're all on broadband aren't we?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 18, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    Once. Brought to attention as the subject of the start of one thread.
    Is the pathetic NThelL-dweller supposed to be aware of all the groups
    you sub. to?
     
    Pip, Feb 18, 2006
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    Cab Guest

    Dearie fucking me. What a complete and utter shame that the OP upset
    you. It's still didn't merit that reply.

    Take a good, hard look at yourself and try to see how others see you,
    when you come up with shite like that. The world (and Usenet) wasn't
    built around you.
     
    Cab, Feb 18, 2006
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    raden Guest

    Cc that to a few others around here
     
    raden, Feb 18, 2006
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  18. SteveH

    Cab Guest

    True, only some people make it more obvious than others.
     
    Cab, Feb 18, 2006
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  19. And what about the Ford Edsel. Urban legend has it that a team of
    psychologists were consulted about the grille design and they came up
    with a design that was supposed to remind potential purchasers of their
    mother.

    Pity the front looked like a ****.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
    I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.

    Folding@Home Team UKRM
    http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=47957
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 18, 2006
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  20. The message <>
    Why go to all that trouble when you could have bought a MGC?
     
    Rusty Hinge 2, Feb 19, 2006
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