Looks like north Wales plod is gearing up its excuses for next years hassling ;o) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/3251455.stm -- Steve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk http://wrexhamseals.tripod.com
Steve Parry wrote "The overwhelming number of riders killed are white men, aged 35 or over, living in north west England or the Midlands, who die on left- handed bends." Aren't statistics wonderful things. Another couple of years and they will have enough numbers to tell us what banks they prefered.
"Statistics are like bikinis, what they reveal is interesting, what they conceal is vital" -- Steve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk http://wrexhamseals.tripod.com
Ah, so it's the road design fault. Stupid place to put a left hander, at the end of a straight bit. Bill
Huh. Now that plod has finally confirmed that most riders killed in N Wales are from England that Welshist **** from Swindon has unsubscribed.
I find it highly likely to be flawed. They may have found that more white men are killed than other ethnic groups, that more of the victims are within the 35+ age band, that the NW England and Midlands are represented more highly than other areas and that left hand bends were more dodgy, but to combine that into the statement quoted above displays the media's typical marginal grasp of logic. Ps. I know that sentance is too long, so Merlin me.
Umm, so, your point was...? It's statistical, innit? Who was it that said that "there are lies, damned lies and statistics"? Disraeli? Whatever. I'd guess the basic numbers are likely to be correct it's just that it's been summed-up by some PR spod for the police for press release, possibly further "summed up" by CS Anwyl and then likely re-summed up by the media, in this case the BBC (gawd bless 'em), and then regurgitated as fact, although, in the defence of the latter, they have quoted the CS. Heh. you an me both. -- | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2000 ZX12R-A1 -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12 |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher. |That the scenery | It always gives the test first |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward." ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
Indeed. What puzzles me is that weren't NWP being quite vocal that they were getting tough on bikes and speeding this year and that they wouldn't tolerate it? If so, what else do these statistics say? That we all deliberately headed to North Wales to bait the cops? That there are more numpties on the roads this year? Or that the cops chose to ignore more of it safe in the knowledge that they'd have enough material for a bloody and shocking awareness campaign for next year and that, generally, Darwinism works for them? -- | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2000 ZX12R-A1 -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12 |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher. |That the scenery | It always gives the test first |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward." ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
Or that they're losing the battle, just as they appear to have lost the battle to keep drugs off the streets, and the north Wales Chief Plod, Brunstrom, has gone on record as saying he wants drugs legalised and decriminalised, on that basis I wonder if he's gonna call for the legalisation of speeding soon ;o) -- Steve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk http://wrexhamseals.tripod.com
Yep. Seems to me that they've been targeting the wrong people all along, otherwise the death rate would've fallen. -- Vince. ZX9R, CBR250 Ex-SKoGA#3, YTC#13 BONY#47, SBS#22, BOTAFOF#26, BOTAFOT#102, MRO#23. MIRTTH#19 "Vince: more repulsive than Ginge"
Champ wrote Yeah, sort of. I also had in mind, as others have pointed out, that given they know full well who the suicides are and how they are going to die that plod could have put a bit more of an effort into keeping more of them alive.
