The effects of chocolate

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Lozzo, Jan 11, 2005.

  1. Lozzo

    flash Guest

    The nutrional information on the tin is just about identical to the more
    expensive stuff. Plus I hate my cats and wish they were dead.
     
    flash, Jan 12, 2005
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  2. I was amazed to find, when I worked for Pura (veggie oils folk) that
    the board of directors and senior managers used to taste all the oil
    produced.

    A sample of each batch of oil, vegetable lard and margarine was saved
    and tasted by them all... From a pint glass each. They'd hold it up to
    the light, swill it round like a fine brandy and swig a big mouthful...

    I think I'd prefer the catfood.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Jan 12, 2005
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  3. Lozzo

    Dan White Guest


    Not true. The following lecture is a summary of the polite rant the
    veterinary nurse wife has to deliver to terminally fucking stupid[1] dog
    owners on an annoying regular basis:


    Chocolate contains Theobromine, which is in the same family (Xanthines) as
    caffine. Humans can break down Xanthines far more efficiently than dogs can,
    so the toxic symptoms very rarely present themselves.

    The half life of Xanthines in a human is a matter of an hour or two (think
    of the "sugar rush" effects), whereas it is 17.5 hours for a dog, with some
    nasty symptoms[2].

    Doggy chocs have the theobromine component removed, so they are ok,
    especially if you like your dog to be a fat ****.


    [1] "Well, he liked it, so I gave him the whole 400g bar."
    <later>
    "What do you mean, "£250 treatment bill?"

    [2] Observational evidence taken from our whippet, which stuffed a box of
    Roses that it nicked from inside two zipped up bags...

    15 minutes after discovering dog on bed with a destroyed box of chocolates
    and that, "what?" look on his face - Dog is dragged the 10 yards downstairs
    to the vet surgery, where some back of a fag packet calculations conclude
    he's had about 40% of the toxic dose. However, as they were roses and not
    solid chocolate, it could potentially be even less than this. Vet advises
    close observation for next 12 hours.

    30 minutes - Dog drinks *entire* water bowl in two minutes flat.

    45 minutes - Dog enters, "Turbo Nutter Bastard Mode". If you have ever owned
    a whippet or a greyhound, try to imagine what they are like when they
    haven't been walked for, say, a week. Then give it a can of Red Bull. This
    in no way adequately describes the whirling dervish of destruction spinning
    around the flat. Dog physically can *not* keep still. At one point he chases
    his own tale until he becomes so dizzy that he falls over. At this point, he
    begins "rowing" along the carpet using just his left legs and teeth...

    1 hr 15 - I have moved everything of possible value either on top of the
    wardrobe or into the bedroom, and shut the door.

    1 hr 30 - I take dog out on the Flexi-lead to try and burn off some energy.
    After dog manages to do an impression of an Imperial AT-AT with grappling
    cable around its legs, I untie him and carry him back indoors.

    5 hrs - Dog has most *astounding* attack of the shits, complete with lovely
    gurgling and burbling noises. Am forced to hose down patio, as there is
    physically nothing to pick up...

    6 hrs - Dog begins retching - After 10 minutes in the garden, he gives up,
    walks back into the kitchen and proceeds to piss all over the floor.
    Bastard.

    8 hrs - Dog goes out for another attack of the shits. At this point it
    becomes clear that he was particularly fond of the hazel in caramel, and
    Toffee Creme, as I find the wrappers protruding from the mess...

    14 hrs - Dog finally goes to sleep, and wakes up 12 hours later with (I
    suspect) the doggie equivalent of an amphetimine comedown.
     
    Dan White, Jan 12, 2005
    #83
  4. Lozzo

    Dan White Guest

    Nope, it's absolutely fine, as long as they always have lots of fresh water
    available.
     
    Dan White, Jan 12, 2005
    #84
  5. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    Bear says...
    I ate pretty much the same thing[1][3] every night for 2 years and still
    wasn't bored with it.

    [1] Number 39[2] in the local chinky menu.
    [2] Sliced beef with spring onions and ginger with a protion of special
    fried rice
    [3] Elly had never seen so many emptied and washed chinky cartons in one
    kitchen cupboard before.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 12, 2005
    #85
  6. I bet that kept the buggers regular!
     
    Christopher Des Clayes, Jan 12, 2005
    #86
  7. Lozzo

    Owen Guest

    Sentimental old git...
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    1 Black, shortly to undergo extensive surgery.
    1 Red, undergoing lightweight surgery. -----
    1 Blue, for Power-Ranger baiting. | o |
    Numbers ... | o |
    Stuff ... | ooo |
    Life ... -----
     
    Owen, Jan 12, 2005
    #87
  8. Lozzo

    Ben Blaney Guest

    I'd never get bored of a tomato omelette.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jan 13, 2005
    #88
  9. It would have made sure I rang in sick on board meeting day.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Jan 13, 2005
    #89
  10. Lozzo

    Muck Guest

    That'll be why then.
     
    Muck, Jan 13, 2005
    #90
  11. No, no. Ace just blocks the mechanism that allows the pain in your
    backside to subside.
     
    genuine_froggie, Jan 14, 2005
    #91
  12. Sounds like the same mechanism that causes my migraines..

    <Waves sumatriptan[1]>

    Phil.

    [1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jan 14, 2005
    #92
  13. Yes.

    The main problem was high taurine levels - with male cats (especially
    elderly male cats) it would tend to lead to the formation of crystals
    in the bladder which would mean the urinary tract would get blocked.
    Which is usually fairly fatal in an unpleasant sort of way.

    Modern cat bisquits don't have the problem - we feed our 3 (all 14+ in
    age) on a mixture of IAMs senior dry food and Whiskas senior pouches.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jan 14, 2005
    #93
  14. It's called meat..

    (And no - the "whiskas has addictive substances" bit is an urban myth)

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jan 14, 2005
    #94
  15. Sounds like Des' "Scottie in bike tank-bag idea"..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jan 14, 2005
    #95
  16. Our tom cat used to sleep on the apex of the neighbours garage roof.
    Given his general lack of brains I'm amazed that he never fell off. The
    roof was 2/3 of the height of the house and had a sharply pitched roof.
    Mind you - he used to catch birds up there (I saw him catch one that
    was trying to dive-bomb him - the first and only time he ever ate a
    house-martin..)

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jan 14, 2005
    #96
  17. Tri-colour Tortoiseshell. As opposed to Calico (which is a tortie with
    large patches of white)

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jan 14, 2005
    #97
  18. Depends on the cat.. all three of ours drink it with no problems at
    all. In fact Bubba (aka The Blob) is addicted to the stuff. But then
    she started life as a farm cat and the only food they were provided was
    a big tub of milk evey morning. If they wanted meat they had to catch
    it themselves.
    Whiskas cat milk. Bubba would crawl over broken glass (or even fight
    off a determined Staffie cross) for that stuff. But it has lots and
    lots of calories in it so she is strictly rationed[1].

    Phil.

    [1] There is a reason for the nickname..
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jan 14, 2005
    #98
  19. The teeth on ours got much much cleaner when we switched them to dry
    food..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jan 14, 2005
    #99
  20. It's the theobromine[1] in the chocolate that does them in (cats too) -
    they can't metabolise it like we can.

    Which is why doggie-chocolate doesn't taste like real chocolate or give
    the stimulant effect of chocolate.

    Tea and coffee also contain theobromines.

    Phil

    [1] A distant relative of caffeine I think
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jan 14, 2005
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