The Catalans take a step forward

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SIRPip, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. Last time I saw Snowy, so was she! For a while...

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    Dr Ivan D. Reid, Jul 30, 2010
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    geoff Guest

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    Sapi takut eh ?

    Must try that next time I'm over there

    What about Javanese bulls ?

    or Lembang ram fighting

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    You have to tweak their testicles if they don't fight
     
    geoff, Jul 30, 2010
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  3. I've seen a bullring. I've been in a bar where bullfights were screened
    but I didn't pay a massive amount of attention. I've never gone to one.

    I thought the way it worked was the fighter waved his cape to encourage
    the bull to charge, poking sharp sticks in it from time to time and
    eventually despatching it with a sword. Others jabbed it from time to
    time.

    I was brought up on a farm with cattle so I know a little about bulls.
    Nasty fuckers. And the ones in bullfights (I read) have little
    domestication.

    However in a bull ring there's nowhere to run really. And a bull is not
    a nimble creature so char
     
    stephen.packer, Jul 31, 2010
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    jgh Guest

    The foie gras farmer I visited suggested that

    a) ducks put on fat massively, in the liver,
    in order to migrate, when left to themselves.
    Other species don't, which is why they're not farmed
    in that manner.
    b) the force-feeding with a tube down the gullet
    duplicates how the parents feed the ducklings,
    i.e. they're built for it.

    I don't know how true either of those things are,
    but I do eat the results.

    - Stick
     
    jgh, Aug 1, 2010
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    Krusty Guest

    b) is certainly complete & utter bollocks. The parents don't force feed
    them until their stomachs explode, which is a regular side effect of
    fois gras farming. There's plenty of info out there in Google land if
    you're interested in finding out what really happens, including secret
    videos.
     
    Krusty, Aug 1, 2010
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    CT Guest

    CT, Aug 2, 2010
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    CT Guest

    heh, I almost posted that exact same response just up there ^
     
    CT, Aug 2, 2010
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    SIRPip Guest

    SIRPip, Aug 2, 2010
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    SIRPip Guest

    That will be why they never do it to geese then, right?
    1. There's a big difference between the beak of a parent bird entering
    the gape of a duckling in order to drop food into the back of the mouth
    and a 30cm tube being stuffed directly into the oesophagus and food
    delivered directly to the stomach under pressure.

    2. Birds used for foie gras production are not young and expecting to
    be fed by a parent bird, they are mature and therefore they're not
    built for it.
    I'd like to eat your foie gras-fattened liver. With a glass of nice
    Chianti, for preference.

    Your ignorance is only exceeded by your gullibility.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 2, 2010
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    Ace Guest

    Whereas some people, myself included, are happy to accept the
    force-feeding as 'not really very cruel' and worth the end result.
     
    Ace, Aug 2, 2010
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    SIRPip Guest

    [foie gras]
    Whereas I choose to place foie gras on my list of foodstuffs that I
    won't knowingly or willingly consume, along with veal and most seafood,
    courgettes and aubergines. With some it is a matter of taste, others
    texture and yet others conviction due to means of production.

    Each to their own.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 2, 2010
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    Ace Guest

    I can accept the Foie Gras thing, can understand the seafood one
    (although not agree with it myself) and wholeheartedly agree with the
    slimy tasteless vegebale dislike, but what's wrong with veal? You do
    know that it's not crate-raised any more, don't you?
    Indeed. Live and let eat.
     
    Ace, Aug 2, 2010
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    CT Guest

    All hail the mighty brussel sprout!
     
    CT, Aug 2, 2010
  14. I can understand your objection to fois gras.

    What's the objection to veal?
     
    stephen.packer, Aug 2, 2010
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    CT Guest

    He shoots, he scores!
     
    CT, Aug 2, 2010
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    Jim Guest

    The devil's vegetable finds work for idle trolls.
     
    Jim, Aug 2, 2010
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    Cab Guest

    You're wrong. It's celery.
     
    Cab, Aug 2, 2010
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    CT Guest

    The brussel sprout is celery?!
     
    CT, Aug 2, 2010
  19. Champ escribió:
    I always get them confused with my socks. Silly really.
     
    Paul Carmichael, Aug 2, 2010
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    Krusty Guest

    AOL, especially when fried with garlic & bacon. In fact only when fried
    with garlic & bacon.
     
    Krusty, Aug 2, 2010
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