test ride document

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by mero, Oct 30, 2003.

  1. mero

    mero Guest

    does anyone have a sample of something they've made someone sign before
    going on a test ride, or have any ideas what i should put into a document of
    this sort in case of an accident or if they get caught speeding by a speed
    camera, etc...

    cheers,
    mero
     
    mero, Oct 30, 2003
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  2. mero

    Dave Ello Guest

    Hi Mero,

    I don't have a sample but can make suggestions based on what I've had to
    sign on test drives etc. Logically you should include:

    - time in, time out (could include odo if you like)
    - something to the effect of "I accept responsibility for any and all
    traffic violations and will cover the cost of the repairs to any damage done
    whilst test riding bike X, rego ABC-123". You may want to check with your
    insurer if you are covered in the event of a mishap - I'm told some won't
    cover you.
    - have the rider sign and perhaps have a witness sign as well.
    - make sure you sight the licence and get the details down and perhaps hold
    something of value (credit card, keys to car, wife etc.). I know some who
    have insisted on a cheque to the value of the bike to be returned when the
    bike gets back in 1 piece. Good luck with that one.

    None of the above unfortunate draconian stuff however, will really assist
    the building of a good relationship that will contribute to the eventual
    sale of the bike. It depends on how concerned you are about covering your
    butt. If it were me, I would certainly be sure you have a signature and
    licence details accompanying a time in/time out so you don't get whacked by
    a speeding offence.

    Hope this helps and good luck.

    Cheers,
    Dave ZZR600 => ST2 (stolen) => '03 XX
    P.S. Make sure you check with your insurer...
    P.P.S. Please note I have absolutely no legal qualifications and so you
    should just take this message at face value. If you could just sign a
    document stating that you have read the above and that you understand
    clearly that I am not a qualified lawyer...........
     
    Dave Ello, Oct 30, 2003
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    Jessie Guest

    errrm...I wouldn't let someone go on a test ride. Too risky for the private
    seller IMHO. Then again maybe in a straight line down a quiet stretch of
    road would be OK, providing they give you their license and $1000 cash up
    front. Of course this all depends on the type of bike youre selling and what
    sort of feeling you get about the potential buyers inspecting the bike. Like
    if they're young punks, I'ld say NO but if they were respectable I would be
    more likely to say yes.
     
    Jessie, Oct 30, 2003
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  4. mero

    mero Guest

    Thanks Dave.

    do you reckon the following is enough?

    a) If I am the at fault rider in an accident (this includes any damage
    incurred in both single or multiple vehicle accidents) then I will pay the
    price of the bike - $XX,XXX to the owner.

    b) If I am not the at fault driver in an accident then I will pay any
    insurance excess or any cost associated with the accident .

    c) I accept responsibility for any and all traffic violations incurred
    while riding the motorcycle.



    or are there too many holes in there?

    mero
     
    mero, Oct 30, 2003
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  5. On 31/10/03 12:46 AM, in article
    Time out / time in.

    Licence number, address, phone number, witness, length of ride agreed to.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 30, 2003
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  6. mero

    mero Guest

    here's what i've got so far:

    SECTION A


    I, _________________________

    D/L _________________________

    Phone _________________________

    Address _________________________

    _____________ P/C ________



    agree to the following conditions during the riding of the vehicle, which
    has the following details:

    Make: XXX

    Model: XXX

    Registration Plates: XXX

    Selling price:XXX



    a) If I am the at fault rider in an accident (this includes any damage
    incurred in both single or multiple vehicle accidents) then I will pay the
    selling price of the bike (as listed above) to the owner.

    b) If I am not the at fault driver in an accident then I will pay any
    insurance excess or any cost associated with the accident to return the bike
    to its original condition.

    c) I accept responsibility for any and all traffic violations incurred
    while riding the motorcycle.



    The details that I have supplied are correct to the best of my knowledge.



    The details that I have supplied pertain also to SECTION B of this document.



    Signature _____________________ Date
    ___/___/_____





    Witness _____________________ Date ___/___/_____



    Name _____________________ D/L ____________





    SECTION B


    I agree that I have ridden the motorcycle (whose details are listed in
    SECTION A) on ___/___/_____ between the following times:



    Departure time: ____________

    Return time: ____________



    Signature _____________________ Date
    ___/___/_____





    Witness _____________________ Date ___/___/_____



    Name _____________________ D/L ____________
     
    mero, Oct 30, 2003
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  7. mero

    Nev.. Guest

    Stuff that. You don't claim their accident through your insurance. That'll
    cost you more than just your excess. A "You bust it, you bought it" policy is
    the order of the day. Give them the phone number of an insurance company so
    they can get a cover note before they ride if you like.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 30, 2003
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  8. mero

    Doug Cox Guest

    No. They're free to ride it as much as they want after they've paid for it.

    Doug Cox.
    Work to ride, Ride to work...
     
    Doug Cox, Oct 30, 2003
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  9. mero

    Doug Cox Guest

    No it doesn't. If they really want it they'll buy it. I've never given test
    rides and I've never had trouble selling a bike.

    I'd take 'em pillion if they asked but no-one's ever asked...

    Interestingly, I've never test-ridden any of the bike's I've bought. Tested
    a lot that I didn't buy though...

    Doug Cox.
    Work to ride, Ride to work...
     
    Doug Cox, Oct 30, 2003
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  10. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:21:12 GMT
    Hmm...

    the RD yam? No. It didn't run, but I didn't buy it either, I was given
    it.
    The GPz? No, but that was new, I rode a demo not the one I bought.
    The SR500? yes, testrode it.
    The Pantah? No, it was in another state, but I got a friend to testride
    it for me.
    The R5? Yes.
    The Chop? no, in bits when I got it
    The SR250? Yes.
    THe GT550? Yes, both of them.
    The 450? I did ride it before I bought it, but that was when it was
    owned by someone other than the bod I bought it from. The ride was what
    made me determined to get the bike one day.
    The Guzzi GT? Yup. 50 yards up and back a wet street and fell deeply
    in love.
    The Baby Beemer? No, restoration wasn't finished when I bought it.
    The Bully? No, was in another state and not really rideable, but I knew
    that and knew what had to be done and what had been done.
    The Hack Guzzi? No, it was in another state, but the owner (a dealer,
    but one I knew personally from the classic racing scene) insisted someone
    rode it and checked it for me.
    The Yam XT? No, it was in another state, but someone tested it for me.
    the MZ? No, it was in another state, and I'd ridden enough MZs to know,
    it was from a dealer and had been looked over by someone else but not
    ridden.

    Have I given test rides?

    Well.. to do that, you have to sell bikes :)

    On all the ones I've sold, I've given test rides, without bits of paper
    or holding licences or anything like that. But then I have only once
    sold a bike to a stranger. (That was the SR250 which was in no real
    danger of being stolen...) I've either used bikes as part of a deal
    with one or more other bikes being traded, or sold them to people I knew
    personally or through clubs or friends.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Oct 30, 2003
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  11. Yeah, my QBE policy for the Monster explicitly mentions not
    covering the bike while being testridden (I think its only for
    the theft cover, but don't quote me on that)

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Oct 31, 2003
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  12. mero

    Biggus Guest

    Heres one I had.


    HAND ME THE CASH OR YOU DONT RIDE IT.
     
    Biggus, Oct 31, 2003
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  13. mero

    Dick Gunton Guest

    I think that is right. The theft clause on mine says in legalese that
    if they test ride it, you authorised them to take the bike & so it is
    not covered for theft.
     
    Dick Gunton, Oct 31, 2003
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  14. You've never bought a bike with out a test ride?

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 31, 2003
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  15. That¹s more a "ride this new one and see how bad yours is" trick. New bikes
    sell themselves.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 31, 2003
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  16. mero

    John Littler Guest

    I certainly haven't (although my old man bought me a couple that he got my uncle
    to test ride first)

    JL
     
    John Littler, Nov 1, 2003
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