Television cameras on motorbikes

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Andy Carvell, Sep 27, 2004.

  1. Andy Carvell

    Andy Carvell Guest

    Soemone I know was wondering about the use of TV cameras on bikes, it
    has intruiged me too, he writes:

    Just watching some of The Great North Run on telly and started thinking
    about the tv pictures of the runners that are shot from motorbikes.

    Does anyone know if the bikes are specially modified to allow the
    cameraman to sit backwards on the bike or do they just put up with being
    uncomfortable?

    Has anyone ever been involved in this type of filming? Either as rider
    or camera operator?

    How does someone get started in this? I'd imagine quite a bit of
    specialist training was necessary.

    Have so far been unsucessful locating any info about this using Google.
     
    Andy Carvell, Sep 27, 2004
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  2. Andy Carvell

    flash@work Guest

    Its all a big con. Even something like a BMW tourer should win the Tour de
    France easily but they always get overtaken by the pushbikes in the final
    sprint.
     
    flash@work, Sep 27, 2004
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  3. Andy Carvell

    porl Guest

    I thought the point about something like the K1200 is that it has a reverse
    gear, enabling the rider to operate the camera and film the cycle race while
    reversing.
     
    porl, Sep 27, 2004
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  4. Andy Carvell wrote
    Not really, basically all you need is the kit because as far as
    examination of your skills are concerned it is piss easy to find out if
    the cameraman is any good at a single glance. No argument.

    Sky were advertising for sports cameramen recently, all the
    qualification you needed was a professional camera.
     
    steve auvache, Sep 27, 2004
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  5. Andy Carvell

    flash@work Guest

    Only cos the bloke on the BMW wasn't using his front brake.
     
    flash@work, Sep 27, 2004
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  6. Andy Carvell

    Steve Parry Guest

    In
    Seem to recall hearing once that on the downhill mountain sections of
    the Tour d'France the pushbikes were faster than the motorbikes around
    the hairpins.



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    Steve Parry, Sep 27, 2004
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  7. Andy Carvell

    Champ Guest

    What makes you think it's uncomfortable? Have you ever ridden pillion
    facing backwards? It's a hoot.
    Yes. http://www.geocities.com/benpitcher27/Champion_Interview
    I just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
     
    Champ, Sep 27, 2004
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  8. Andy Carvell

    Champ Guest

    S'true.

    In the same way that 125s are faster round the corners than 250s,
    which in turn are faster than the MotoGP bikes. A combined bike and
    rider of around 80kg on tyres this wide <holds thumb and finger 10mm
    part> is always going to corner faster than a bike/rider/pillion
    combination of 400kg on motorcycle sized tyres, assuming it can get up
    to the speed. On the downhill sections, it can.
     
    Champ, Sep 27, 2004
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  9. Watched a program on the TV about that. It showed several shots of
    up-side-down motorbikes with rider and cameraman trying to sort them
    selves out
     
    Mick Whittingham, Sep 27, 2004
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  10. Andy Carvell

    dwb Guest

    The physics of that are a bit scary.

    I'd much rather have the wide motorcycle tyres TYVM.
     
    dwb, Sep 27, 2004
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  11. Andy Carvell

    Champ Guest

    No they're not.
    Well, I realise it's because it makes you feel safer, but in fact, the
    wider the tyre, the worse the bike steers. This is because, when lent
    over on a wide tyre, the contact patch is significantly displaced from
    the centre line of the bike.
     
    Champ, Sep 27, 2004
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  12. Andy Carvell

    Ben Guest

    Having done it, I'd rather have the pedal bike, seriously.

    Less damage when you crash as well.
     
    Ben, Sep 27, 2004
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  13. Andy Carvell

    Lozzo Guest

    Lozzo, Sep 27, 2004
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  14. Andy Carvell

    dwb Guest

    Hmm, steers okay - but what about road holding?

    Which would you lean over further in the wet, your motorcycle or your
    bicycle?
     
    dwb, Sep 27, 2004
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  15. Andy Carvell

    Ace Guest

    Gawd, you've never lived.

    IME it's much more scary on a push-bike, possibly due to lack of any
    protection[1], possibly just that you don't feel like it _should_ be
    going that fast.


    [1] Although doing 50mph on a motorbike in shorts isn;t scary at all,
    so I guess that can;t be it.
     
    Ace, Sep 27, 2004
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  16. Andy Carvell

    dwb Guest

    Yes... not something I'd be rushing to do right at the moment with the
    riding position + neck I currently have :)
     
    dwb, Sep 27, 2004
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  17. Andy Carvell

    Ace Guest

    Well, plenty of mountains round here, and a pushbike or two to borrow
    if you want...
     
    Ace, Sep 27, 2004
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  18. Andy Carvell

    dwb Guest

    Heh - I meant on a motorcycle. Going down the mountain would be good on a
    bicycle - going up....?

    Seriously, I was very tempted with Porl's jaunette earlier this year - if
    another one occurs next year and my financial situation is improved, I will
    definitely be up for it.
     
    dwb, Sep 27, 2004
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  19. Andy Carvell

    Ace Guest

    I meant both. Or either, as it were.
    They do have pedals fitted, you know.
    Well I'll deffo be planning to do something similar - can't guarantee
    your finances though :)
     
    Ace, Sep 27, 2004
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  20. Andy Carvell

    Bob123 Guest

    Shit your googling must be even worse than mine.
    http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=HAxqyC.2qD%40bath.ac.uk
    or http://tinyurl.com/5ac89

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    Bob123, Sep 28, 2004
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