Tasmanian Motorcycle Safey Strategy *cough*

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by jase, Oct 24, 2003.

  1. jase

    jase Guest

    Ok boys and girls here it is

    http://www.transport.tas.gov.au/pub...afety_strategy/motorcycle_safety_strategy.pdf

    there are good bits and bad bits but lets focus on the bad bits

    The steering comittee had 1. A public servant from the Transport department,
    2. A senior policeman and 3. A representative from the RACT . It had no
    members of any groups representing tasmanian motorcyclists ie. The MRATAS,
    or the Tas MC council.

    They are going to try and legislate for "Lights on", I don't know the
    history behind the ADR and the subsequent repealing of said ADR but while I
    run my lights on most of the time I realise there are times when it isn't
    the safe thing to do and turn them off

    They are going to blindly support and follow the VicRoads anti bike front
    number plate policy

    And instead of a $50 bike tax like victoria they want a licence fee for the
    riders. Many years ago tasmania had a licence fee for bike riders to help
    offset the cost of the state run rider training program, when this was given
    to stay upright the fee disappeared, it looks like its making a comeback

    Cheers

    Jase
     
    jase, Oct 24, 2003
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  2. jase

    Jules Guest

    And instead of a $50 bike tax like victoria they want a licence fee for the
    That's a better scenario that what we have in Vic. People who own multiple bikes are getting slugged repeatedly.
     
    Jules, Oct 25, 2003
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  3. jase

    jase Guest

    multiple bikes are getting slugged repeatedly.

    and people who don't ride but still have the endorsement get slugged anyway

    its swings and roundabouts

    jase
     
    jase, Oct 25, 2003
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  4. Helmets required for both heads!

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, Oct 26, 2003
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  5. jase

    Boxer Guest

    Why should you charge people for something they don't use?

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Oct 26, 2003
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  6. You haven't asked to be on it? Numpty.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 26, 2003
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  7. jase

    Zekt Guest

    Check the other thread on the front number plates report... grab the PDF
    and mail it to them. That should stop that one in its tracks, and maybe
    save the tas government about $100,000 in research. Who knows, you might
    actually get that $100,000 spent on doing something useful.

    J
     
    Zekt, Oct 27, 2003
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  8. Interesting quote:
    " Shaun and Rod both said it was like talking to clear air when they
    met with the taskforce - they simply were not interested."

    That could be why no bike representation.

    Cheers


    -------------
    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Oct 28, 2003
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  9. jase

    Nev.. Guest

    because it costs nothing and its easier than having it cancelled.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 28, 2003
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  10. jase

    Nathan Smith Guest

    Hmmm a better question is why have a bike licence if you don't ride?

    Nathan
     
    Nathan Smith, Oct 28, 2003
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  11. Ah, I didn't see that. However, its only a steering committee.

    Still, don¹t go quietly into the dieing light.......

    Numpty, awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 28, 2003
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  12. jase

    jase Guest

    I have a letter in todays paper which is basically a cut down submission of
    what I will be sending in during the 14 day comments period.

    Why doesn't it surprise me that they didn't want to hear the other side of
    the arguement

    Jase
     
    jase, Oct 29, 2003
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  13. You written a reply to the newspaper with your concerns?

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 29, 2003
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  14. jase

    conehead Guest

    I got the printed stuff today. Responses must be received by them before
    7th November.

    Some of the stuff said on the news wasn't in the printed material, and
    rather than restricting learners to 150cc as someone said, it's the
    150kw/tonne and 660cc formula as in LAM's in NSW.

    Their definition of "road" is "road-related areas as defined in Australian
    Road Rules". Does anyone know what this means, because many of the
    fatalities are ATV's on farms & beaches?

    The statistics are jumbled, some include only licenced riders, some don't
    say, some are local, some are from all of Australia, and all are useless due
    to the variations in presentation.

    The dreadful state of roads, and the deaths of mainland riders, are covered
    by Strategy 4.10:
    "Raise motorcycle rider awareness of the 'unique Tasmanian road
    environment'". Get ready to be given a piece of paper on the ferry saying
    "Don't you go too quick, you northern hellraiser, or you'll become a victim
    of our charming and unique road environment".
     
    conehead, Oct 29, 2003
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  15. jase

    Nev.. Guest

    Part 2 Application of the Australian Road Rules

    Division 1 Roads and road-related areas

    11 Australian Road Rules apply to vehicles and road users on roads and
    road-related areas
    (1) The Australian Road Rules apply to vehicles and road users on roads and
    road-related areas. Note Road is defined in rule 12, road-related area is
    defined in rule 13, road user is defined in rule 14, and vehicle is defined in
    rule 15.
    (2) Each reference in the Australian Road Rules (except in this Division) to a
    road includes a reference to a road-related area, unless otherwise expressly
    stated in the Rules. Examples for subrule (2)
    1 A reference in rule 146 (which deals with driving within a single marked
    lane or line of traffic) to the road includes a reference to the road-related
    area of the road.
    2 A reference in rule 200 (1) (which deals with certain heavy or long vehicles
    stopping on roads) to a length of road includes a reference to the
    road-related area of the length of road.
    3 A reference in rule 31 (which deals with starting a right turn from a road,
    except a multi-lane road) to a road does not include a reference to a
    road-related area, because of the definition in subrule (5) of that rule.

    12 What is a road
    (1) A road is an area that is open to or used by the public and is developed
    for, or has as one of its main uses, the driving or riding of motor vehicles.
    Note Motor vehicle is defined in the dictionary.

    (2) However, unless the contrary intention appears, a reference in the
    Australian Road Rules (except in this Division) to a road does not include a
    reference to:
    (a) an area so far as the area is declared, under another law of this
    jurisdiction, not to be a road for the Australian Road Rules; or
    (b) any shoulder of the road.
    (3) The shoulder of the road includes any part of the road that is not
    designed to be used by motor vehicles in travelling along the road, and
    includes:
    (a) for a kerbed road — any part of the kerb; and
    (b) for a sealed road — any unsealed part of the road, and any sealed part of
    the road outside an edge line on the road; but does not include a bicycle
    path, footpath or shared path. Note Bicycle path is defined in rule 239, edge
    line and footpath are defined in the dictionary, and shared path is defined in
    rule 242.

    13 What is a road-related area
    (1) A road-related area is any of the following:
    (a) an area that divides a road;
    (b) a footpath or nature strip adjacent to a road;
    (c) an area that is not a road and that is open to the public and designated
    for use by cyclists or animals;
    (d) an area that is not a road and that is open to or used by the public for
    driving, riding or parking vehicles. Note Vehicle is defined in rule 15.
    (2) However, unless the contrary intention appears, a reference in the
    Australian Road Rules (except in this Division) to a roadrelated area includes
    a reference to:
    (a) an area so far as the area is declared, under another law of this
    jurisdiction, to be a road-related area for the Australian Road Rules; or
    (b) any shoulder of a road; or
    (c) any other area that is a footpath or nature strip as defined in the
    dictionary; but does not include a reference to an area so far as the area is
    declared, under another law of this jurisdiction, not to be a road-related
    area for the Australian Road Rules. Note Shoulder is defined in rule 12.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 29, 2003
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  16. jase

    conehead Guest

    Thank you, nev
     
    conehead, Oct 30, 2003
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