Take a Deep Seat

The networks breezed by, like it was no story.. PBS did a little more of a
comprehensive commentary and even interviewed some kind of official and
corporate spokesperson..

Gasolene prices have soared to just over six dollars per gallon in some
parts of Alabama and Georgia.. When asked by the reporter, the franchise
owner mumbled something about he was trying to discourage people from buying
his product, for fear of running out.. What ?

The official that was interviewed commented about the vigilance toward
guarding against price gouging and profiteering.. hmmm.. Why weren't they
handcuffing the idiot selling gas for such obscene prices ? In the next
breath, the official was rambling about supply and demand.. What ?

Then the oil company executive elaborated on the hardships that the
companies are suffering with financial exposures in development and the
repairs of the facilities damaged in this catastrophy.. After all these
years of record and obscene profits they've enjoyed and reported, there
doesn't seem to have been much consideration for the consumers ..

Meantime.. we've got hundreds of thousands Americans who are suffering real
hardships on our Gulf Coast.. Some of them could not afford to evacuate
because they didn't have enough money to buy the gasolene necessary for them
to leave.. Heaven forbid, some of those people didn't even have a car for
transportation.. Were those poor oil corporations civic minded enough to
offer transportation to those who were sensible enough to want to leave.. I
never heard about it if they did..

In our own backyard.. George Bush was preoccupied with his monthlong
vacation.. Air Force One was busily transporting our president to places
like Idaho and Utah, where he appeared before selected audiences, making his
pitch to equate the war in Iraq with WWII.. Then he flew to San Diego, Ca.
to attend a fundraiser and make the same pitch to his supporters, there..
Arizona was his next stop where he addressed his developer supporters who
have been busy with one of the most heartless pyramid schemes in recent
memory.. He assured them all that their developments in Arizona will be
successful ventures, even though they are developing areas which have no
infrastructure or water resources to support the expansions they are selling
to the gullible Americans with some money to buy..

Even though George Bush had been warned about the consequences for not being
prepared to deal with a category three hurricane in the New Orleans area, he
was more concerned with countering the questions of mothers who'd lost sons
in Iraq.. than mobilizing to deal with impending disaster..

The prices of gasolene and other fossil fuels products have escalated beyond
the price gouging and profiteering stage, yet we are hearing lip service ..
Our young men and women in uniform are dying daily in Iraq.. Our own people
are dying daily in the streets of our cities.. Our Homeland Security dept.
is helpless to afford the relief of our own people withing five days since
the disaster struck us.. FEMA is offering a multitude of excuses as to why
they aren't effective in relieving the suffering on our Gulf Coast in a
timely fashion.. In the next breath, they are boasting about all the
progress being made..

Media is reporting these events as they occur.. They boast about all the
coverage they are reporting and the courage of their correspondents who we
see on our television screens .. What they aren't reporting is why this
catastrophy is costing us so dearly in lives and treasure.. Am I the only
one who sees a problem in all these pictures ?

Bill Walker
Irving

 

Aside from your incessant whining about your government, what are you
doing to help those in need right now Bill.

US refugees, only a few hundred miles from your door step are in dire
need of food and shelter. Relief agencies need funds, food, clothing.

Tell us you have donated some cash. Tell us you have offered your home
as shelter for even a couple of the homeless.

Damn Bill, if there was this kind of devastation within a few hundred
miles of my house my car would be filled with all of the food and
clothing I could squeeze in it and I would be driving as close to the
tragedy as I could to help even the few who could be fed by the little
I could hold in my car. And my house would be open to offer shelter
for those who are without. I would be organizing collections of the
necessities of life and have them ready to send to my neighbours as
soon as a channel is available.

As it is I have already given a chunk of money for relief through my
Church and after payday I will contribute more.

Of course that's me.

Please tell us you are doing more than just using this tragedy as
fodder for your obsessive attacks against your Government. Tell us
your beloved TMRA11 is rallying their members to offer assistance for
those who have lost everything.

There is plenty of time for pissing and moaning later Bill, now is the
time for those of good character and courage to take action.
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The Red Cross is actively involved in raising funds to provide the
help that is and will be required. Have you opened your wallet to
support them?

Very soon tens of thousands of homeless, refugee, American citizens
will be looking for a temporary shelter until they can re-establish a
permanent home. Will you open your door to lend a hand?

Will you rally the support of the TMRA11 to help raise the needed
funds or to collect food, clothing, staples like toothbrushes and
toothpaste for the displaced residents of New Orleans?

Their is a need there Brian, aside from running at the mouth and
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Brian.. you must keep in mind who you are responding to .. This is Don
Binns.. Remember that this is the same Don Binns who'd "pay a visit to
Irving, Tx. with a couple of his friends".. until it became evident that
his so-called visit would be welcomed.. This is the same Don Binns that
worked tirelessly on a newsgroup to organize and plan a party in Texas.. At
the last minute, when it became obvious that he'd most probably be faced by
the same man that he'd threatened that visit to, he fabricated an excuse to
avoid that possibility..

Remember.. this is the Don Binns that has been critical of a motorcyclist's
advocacy group that works constantly to preserve the best interests of
bikers in Texas.. Also remember that Don Binns is in Canada with no direct
knowledge or meaningful contact with anyone of consequence in Texas.. This
is a man with limited usenet participation .. There is no way that I'll
dignify his sleazy comments with direct response .. I'd suggest that you do
the same..

 

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This one's long guys.. I'm frustrated.....

Yes - You're right the red cross *is* actively raising funds... Money -
that's all they friggin want. There are thousands of people who are
frustrated because we have (a) FOOD and (b) Clothing and (c) camping gear
- i.e. propane, etc) to offer and donate to people who needed it DAYS AGO..
we're being told by the Red Cross to "GO AWAY - DO NOT DONATE THESE ITEMS -
We ONLY WANT CASH DONATIONS". That specifically is for people trying to
make sure food/clothing are taken to (a) New Orleans, (b) The Houston
Astrodome, and (c) Dallas's Reunion Arena. I know - I checked online, and
I called. There are MANY who are TRYING to help... but being told "No".

I don't know what you're offerings are for any relief.. but I don't HAVE
cash to offer... I DO have clothing.. new, unused clothing - because I'm a
screenprinter by trade, and we wind up with boxes of acumulated "extra"
shirts, etc... There are people who could have used these things to ease
the *immediate* burdon that they have.. but we're being turned away and
told to empty our wallets...

*THAT'S* what's wrong with the picture for the last 4 days.. People are
trying to do what the govn't *wants* to do - but we're being turned away..
now how heartbreaking is that? Very.

There are SO many things wrong with New Orleans.. and there's not any one
thing to point to for blame (No, Bill - Bush is NOT the *cause* of the
inefficiencies - but neither is he helping in a way that the public can see
right now... other than having congress pass bills for emergency funds..
that don't save the people who - 4-5 days now - after the hurricane, have
STILL not been rescued from homes.)

Poor city design from the beginning... Poor roadway systems (state
controlled - except for interstates which are federally funded) Poor
planning for emergencies.. - I blame the local level of any city's
management for that - Not Bush - but the same Mayor who's whining now that
the military isn't helping.. because they're being shot at while trying to
deliver water / food... Poor communications to the public for *where* to
donate tangible, life-saving goods that can be used *right now* - instead
of turning us away... Lack of leadership to take control of teh situation
at the SuperDome and on the streets.. it's a cluster-**** of bureaucrats
from the local level - all the way up to the Presidency... and people
standing around waiting for a fucking handout - crying about *why won't
they feed me* - when they can flex their own muscles and lift a hand to
help each other out - instead of getting the gang-banger mentality of
selfishness that's only *me, me, me*...

FEMA - That's just a cluster-**** at any given time waiting to happen..
I've got 2 acquaintences that work for FEMA in the DC area... They
know. Last year - they deployed cargo trailers to the hurricane areas of
Florida *prior* to the arrival of the hurricanes.. What did those trailers
do? They did more damage than good. They were blown into homes and did
damage that wouldn't have otherwise been done...

MANY, MANY of the people at the SuperDome are people who simply decided to
"wait it out" - people that even if they didn't have cars (yes - the
financially opressed) - could have WALKED, bicycled, or hitched rides out
of the hurricane's path with the time they were given in advance to
evacuate. The others.. the truly bedridden / shut-ins / sick.. well.. even
if that's all that made it to the SuperDome.. they weren't prepared enough
LOCALLY to deal with them.. much less the scores of healthy folks that
stayed after a mandatory evac. order...

All the planning in the world does NO good if there's not someone at the
local level to take control and implement the plan and bring order back to
chaos. Get some of those thugs off the streets with the power trips over
an essentially empty city - and give them some responsibility to do RIGHT.
Have them at the boxes of bread and peanut butter (if they should ever be
"BOUGHT AND TRANSPORTED by the Red Cross") - handing them out to the people
they were beating, raping, and stealing television sets and jewelry from...

Rex S.

 

Don,

As I think you're well aware, Brian does not reflect the feelings and
sentiments of the many many good folks in Texas and accross the country.
The people of Houston and many surrounding areas have opened their hearts
and billfolds to help out. Example: According to the 'Daily Sentinal' (
http://www.dailysentinel.com/ ) there are at least 80 families being taken
care of at the CL Simon Recreation Center. There is a phone number given for
anyone needing to know what supplies are most needed. There's even an
address you can show up to volunteer your services. If you're looking to
help, either with time, money or materials, there are several good
organizations eager waiting for your assistance.

We're only experiencing the 'tip of the iceburg' as far as what problems
will be caused by Katrina. If high gas prices are the only effect Katrina
have on me, I'll be thankful. It's a far smaller price then the hundreds of
thousands of folks in the southeast that have lost everything. I think it's
a matter of putting things in perspective. I can piss and moan about the gas
prices anytime, lol, those folks in the southeast need our help now.

Best regards,

Vic

 

Yup, I'm still here. I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic I
responded to though? If you hadn't snipped my post it would have read:

As I think you're well aware, Brian does not reflect the feelings and
sentiments of the many many good folks in Texas and accross the country.
The people of Houston and many surrounding areas have opened their hearts
and billfolds to help out. Example: According to the 'Daily Sentinal' (
http://www.dailysentinel.com/ ) there are at least 80 families being taken
care of at the CL Simon Recreation Center. There is a phone number given for
anyone needing to know what supplies are most needed. There's even an
address you can show up to volunteer your services. If you're looking to
help, either with time, money or materials, there are several good
organizations eager waiting for your assistance.

We're only experiencing the 'tip of the iceburg' as far as what problems
will be caused by Katrina. If high gas prices are the only effect Katrina
have on me, I'll be thankful. It's a far smaller price then the hundreds of
thousands of folks in the southeast that have lost everything. I think it's
a matter of putting things in perspective. I can piss and moan about the gas
prices anytime, lol, those folks in the southeast need our help now.

Best regards,

Vic

 

Brian,

It's obvious to the rest of us what Don meant. There are many ways to
help the survivors of Katrina that don't require a helicopter landing on our
roof, lol. If we were all to take your responce as literally as you took
his, would we be safe to assume that you have no intentions of lifting a
finger to help out unless some one sends a helicopter for you? Silly
thought, isn't it?

Vic

 

You have every right to be frustrated, Rex.. Americans who are not
frustrated are living in a vacuum.. This is day five of this catastrophy..
Americans are dying in one of our cities.. Other areas of our country are
devastated and those people have endured losses that most of us can't
comprehend..

What we are seeing this morning is more of the same from the government that
is stewards of the safety of America.. We are hearing a cheerleading
president while he is soliciting for more political capitol.. That isn't
what our people need during this time.. They need urgent and immediate
relief..

Put aside the reasons for the severity of this disaster.. for the moment..
No one ordered Hurrican Katrina.. It was coming and America had advance
warning.. There were no preparation to deal with the hurricane or it's
disastrous results.. The most helpless amongst us, were caught in the
horrible aftermath of this storm, with no recourse or plan for their
survival.. There is no accounting, at this time.. to even estimate the
number of deaths that are the result of this lack of preparation.. Our
leaders seemed to be keeping their fingers crossed that we'd narrowly dodge
this bullet.. They were not ready and these tragedies will occur again and
again, unless we hold them accountable ..

Rex.. we are all greatly distressed and frustrated in this critical time of
need, in America.. We are all doing everything in our power to contribute
and afford some relief in our pitiful means.. Along with our frustrations,
there is also great anger.. as well there should be.. We can't do much for
the time being .. The area is isolated and inaccessible.. Those victims are
being brought to us and we'll care for them.. Even though it seems
inadequate, it is about all that we can accomplish, under the
circumstances..

While we agonize, Americans everywhere must declare that another tragedy
like this one, will never occur in our country again.. We'll never be caught
so completely off guard and ill prepared to deal with disaster .. ever
again.. Up to and including the president of the United States, our elected
and appointed officials must be held accountable for failing America, yet
again.. Business as usual is no longer acceptable.. President Bush just made
another of his famous cheerleading speeches .. He praised the FEMA director
for doing such a wonderful job.. What ? Five days after this tragedy and
those victims are still dying and suffering without food and water..not to
mention shelter.. Are we all insane to allow this chief executive of the
most advanced nation on earth to even consider making such declarations.. No
more business as usual.. End of rant, Rex.. Regards and hopefully.. there is
a ray of light at the end of the tunnel..

Bill Walker
Irving

 

I really expected more out of you than that "Beemer". They WERE NOT
PREPARED TO HANDLE EVEN TAKING DONATIONS of things that would have saved
lives. Food... Propane.. Clothes...

Yeah - NOW - 5 days after, the Salvation Army is FINALLY setup to take
those donations (minus clothes),.. But at this point it's too little, too
late for the folks who are starving down there...

I don't know what your remark about "our Sheriff" is trying to imply...
Bill doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for him.. Actually I *have*
tried to help - re-read my original post. I was TURNED AWAY from trying to
help - at a time when help was most critical. I have no beef with Bill -
and I've not directed anything at him - simply headed off a rant that I
knew he'd take on blaming Bush for the lack of response time. That's
simply a difference in Bil's opinion and mine... I can live with that, and
I'm pretty sure that Bill can, too. I'll drink a beer with Bill or Brian
any day.

I've never met or spoken offline with Bill.. I have spoken offline with
Brian... But we kept conversation to bikes. I have a feeling that the same
frustrations that he's posted about this morning are pretty close to what
I've found as well... Too little, too late from the people who "could have"
made a difference early in the critical time.

Don't you think - for a minute that if there were local areas they could
have pulled food from that they would have? Sure.. but it didn't happen.
I know for a fact that as far north and farther than Visckburg, Miss.. that
power wasn't restored and roads cleared until Tuesday evening...

Don't fuckin cry to me about it costing too much for an 11 hour trip from
Dallas to N.O. with a load of food, etc. There were and are individuals
willing to cover those costs for a load. My brother owns a moving company
- trailers, trucks, etc... The fact is - people were turned away from
helping.

Rex S.

 

You are quite right.. it is obvious what Don Binns meant.. and you.. Both of
you asswipes are bystanders with Walker fixations that are borderline
maniacal ..

 

Bill,

Typical 'Walker Responce'. When you can't find the words to respond to a
post, you bring out the old 'conspiracy theory' or name calling. Grow up
Bill, I was responding to your son's very stupid responce to a very serious
matter, and yours too, if you are agreeing with him.

Vic

 

Nah.. you came on firing with both barrels.. I'll be firing right back at
you, if I need to.. Goes for your sleazy little cowardly friend in Calgary,
also..

 

Thanks Albert - I guess Dallas wasn't "local enough" to have the same
organized effort - I'll make arrangements through the links you provided.
I've got almost $400 of canned food - bought today - and clothing to
offer... and the means (vehicle/gas) to get it to where it's needed most...

Rex S.

 

There are people of good character and dignity everywhere and I
applaud their ability to rise above personal agendas to help in any
way they can. The relief task in front of the world right now is
immense, almost incomprehensible, but what will make it work are all
of the individuals who can help a little or a lot. Good on you for
being one of them.

It's time for real men and women to stand up.

--


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Cute Brian, lol. Maybe if all I had to make that observation were the words
I've read from you, I'd agree with you. Taking you 'literally', and applying
your 'logic', am I to assume by your question, that 'you' feel there are no
good folks in Texas? lol.. Sorry Brian, I know better then that!

You just keep sitting there on the porch Brian, one will be there
shortly, lol, 'honest', lol.

Vic

 

Brian now is not the time for a pissing contest.

Instead of waiting for a helicopter here are a couple of constructive
suggestions for you or anyone else to pick up on:
1) I have heard the Salvation Army has set up 10 or 15 canteens on the
roads around Biloxi to feed the refugees. I am sure they can use
donations to feed a few more and they are accessible by car.
2) Many of the displaced families are being evacuated to places such
as the Houston Astrodome. I am sure if you showed up the with a
carload of supplies you would be welcomed. Think about how these folks
feel. They have lost everything. What about the children? I can't
imagine how they feel. Want to do something nice, take up a collection
of childrens toys or stuffed animals and take them to the Astrodome.
You can pack a lot of childrens smiles in your car.
3) Approach a company such as Rubber Maid and have them donate a
hundred of their decent sized plastic containers. Then go out and
solicit donations of toothbrushes, toothpaste, soap, Tylenol, shampoo,
deodorant, combs and all of the other little things people need to
begin to feel normal again. Pack it all in those containers and get
them to one of the evacuation centres. Round up 50 of your biker
buddies and strap two of them on each bike and ride them to an
evacuation centre. There's a good photo op for the TMRA11. Once the
dry goods are dispensed those containers will serve as storage for
what little personal possessions these people might have or as washing
basins or containers for water.

Any one of those ideas or even a part of one of those ideas will help
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Get over it Bill. I am challenging you and your son to do something to
help those in need. You're the one fond of telling people when it is
time to man up. The time is now. The only question is who are the real
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That's the point Brian, Don Binns was not suggesting everyone should 'just
open up their wallets to whoever'. The fact that that's all you got out of
his post is the reason I responded in the first place. If you're doing more
then just the whining and carrying on you've shown here, I stand corrected.

Fair enough, had you responded to Don with that statement, intead of all
your whining, and trying to change his words around, you wouldn't have
heard a word out of me.

Have a good day,

Vic

 

**** you.. you gutless son of a bitch. Your "man up" opportunity got by you,
when you came up with that lame assed bullshit about such a tragedy that you
cancelled a trip to Texas.. Your interest in appealling for sympathy to try
and take a man's daughter away from him is as phoney as your other usenet
horseshit..

This newsgroup attack of yours is just as sleazy.. no call for it and it's
only a furthur demonstration of what a genuine and devout, cowardly bastard
you really are..