Tach for Honda CM450E

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by novascroller, Jun 23, 2007.

  1. novascroller

    novascroller Guest

    I miss not having a tach on a bike, is there an aftermarket company
    that makes a tach that would fit on my '84 cm450e? thanks.
     
    novascroller, Jun 23, 2007
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  2. Loads of companies sell electronic aftermarket tachometers. Just google.
    None of them will be a perfect cosmetic match for your speedometer,
    though.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 23, 2007
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  3. novascroller

    Ivan Vegvary Guest

    Don't want to start a war here. But, how useful is a tachometer to the
    average rider. Notice I said average. Yeah, it's a nice instrument to look
    at, but, never have I made a shift decision base on a tachometer reading.
    Same for all my cars with tachs. Especially my vehicles with automatic
    transmissions.
    Other than race participants, does anybody look at the tach for any useful
    purpose?

    Just wondering!

    Ivan Vegvary
     
    Ivan Vegvary, Jun 23, 2007
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  4. On some bikes, it's pretty near essential. On others, it isn't.
    See above. On my little 250, I don't miss it and don't need it. On my
    Honda 400 Four, I sure do.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 23, 2007
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  5. novascroller

    Ivan Vegvary Guest

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    Could you please explain. Is your Honda 400 so quiet that the shift points
    are not obvious.

    Thanks,

    Ivan Vegvary
     
    Ivan Vegvary, Jun 23, 2007
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  6. novascroller

    novascroller Guest

    whoops my bad. it should have been worded "i miss having a tach".
    sorry.
     
    novascroller, Jun 23, 2007
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  7. novascroller

    novascroller Guest

    i find a tach useful for troubleshooting carb issues.
     
    novascroller, Jun 23, 2007
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  8. No. It has a very peaky engine, which starts producing power around
    6500rpm. Below that it's rather flat. It's also rather revvy and will
    cheerfully (in the lower gears) spin into the red zone.

    Now, in order to make progress, as it were, I really need to change up
    around 7500rpm in order not to have the revs fall out of the power band.
    When making fast progress, I change up a lot higher, and as it is a 30
    year-old classic, I really don't like taking it into the red zone - and
    preferably not within 1000 rpm of it.

    The red zone starts at 10,000 rpm. My aged ears cannot tell the
    difference between 9,000 and 10,000 rpm on a little four, and I doubt
    yours can either.

    Clear?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 23, 2007
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  9. novascroller

    Ivan Vegvary Guest

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    Yes, clear. Thank you!!

    Ivan Vegvary
     
    Ivan Vegvary, Jun 24, 2007
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  10. novascroller

    Ivan Vegvary Guest

    I had not considered most all of the things you mentioned above. My main
    experience has been on my 1964 BMW R69S. I've never had it above 80 mph
    and, usually, I'm in 4th gear by the time I get to 30 mph. Yes, I can also
    reach 30 in 1st gear but have never needed the acceleration. I obviously
    ride like a wimp. Anyway, you have given me some good points to think
    about, and I guess there are many riders who are much more demanding of
    their machines.

    Thanks for your ideas,

    Ivan Vegvary
     
    Ivan Vegvary, Jun 24, 2007
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  11. Ooh! Always wanted to ride one of those.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 24, 2007
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  12. You can hook almost any electronic tach to a coil primary
    negative and get some kind of reasonable results.

    My twin makes one spark per revolution. For tuning, I
    usually use an ancient Sears engine analyzer set on
    "four cylinder, narrow band". On this setting, it reads half
    the real RPM speed, which still makes it way more
    accurate in narrow band mode than a handlebar tach
    would be. This unit cost all of $15 on eBay and hooks
    into a permanant connection I wired for it off the
    spark coil.

    For normal riding, I run a Drag Specialties knockoff
    made for HD "dual fire" ignitions. Just figure out how
    many sparks per revolution or revolutions per spark
    and you can match up a tach to the engine. They
    generally are driven by a pulsed ground from the coil
    negative.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Jun 25, 2007
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