Switzerland (yawn)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TD, Aug 20, 2010.

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    TD Guest

    As Wessie suggested, I'm taking some time to explore the Alps on my way to
    Greece. e.g.

    21st London - Reims
    22nd Reims - UST
    23rd UST - UST (via fun roads)
    24th UST - Venice

    So, er, where in Switzerland? I think Lucerne or Bern look like decent bases
    for exploring, or shall I go the whole hog and base myself in Interlaken or
    Meiringen? I think I should stay in a single UST as it will enable me to ride
    around during the day without luggage.

    [1] UST = Unknown Swiss Town

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    TD
    2000 GSX1300RX (red and black)
    Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, cage
    - What with the Internet, it doesn't take long to feel like one is an
    - expert on any subject these days.
     
    TD, Aug 20, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    It's only 390 miles to Meiringen via motorway and then the highest passes
    are on the doorstep.
     
    wessie, Aug 20, 2010
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    That's what I'd do.
     
    Colin Irvine, Aug 20, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    Somewhere near a cashpoint.

    The tolls on those roads are quite steep. IYSWIM.
     
    ogden, Aug 20, 2010
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    snogfest Guest

    stayed in a village purporting to be the birthplace of William Tell,
    came over some massive pass from Austria.
    Watch out for little old ladies in cafes selling rosti and local
    cheese, check the prices first!
     
    snogfest, Aug 20, 2010
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    snogfest Guest

    this place
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altdorf,_Switzerland
     
    snogfest, Aug 20, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    I've just been around the area. A most fantastic journey is to skirt
    Interlaken and go over the Grimsell then Simplon passes. It's truly
    amazing. This will bring you down to the head of Lake Maggiore in Italy.
    Ride down the lake to the Autostrade and Venice is an easy destination. You
    don't need to touch a single Swiss toll road.

    You could stay in Interlaken, plenty choice, from Balmers Herberage to the
    Victoria. I love both.

    Or depending where you cross stay here www.kreuz-kappel.ch/englisch.htm very
    well run and immaculate which is on a good non toll cross country route
     
    Hog, Aug 20, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    I didn't find any tedious spots. You were probably going too slow.
    I put a few waypoints in to keep it interesting and away from tolls.

    Doing it in a Cabriolet, rather than full bore on a bike or in a Porker, I
    saw and appreciated more of the country than in all previous trips. It took
    a bit longer though. One could really appreciate the smell of hot brakes
    coming down from Simplon summit.
     
    Hog, Aug 20, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    If you want to smell hot brakes, do this route while making good
    progress:

    http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&s...,10.636139&sspn=0.26083,0.479279&ie=UTF8&z=11
     
    ogden, Aug 20, 2010
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    Jim Guest

    Ah!

    That makes much more sense than Unresolved Sexual Tension.

    I might have to go back and re-read some threads.
     
    Jim, Aug 20, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    The endless 50/30 limit through the valley?

    If you enjoyed that, maybe you should consider buying a Harley.
     
    ogden, Aug 20, 2010
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    SIRPip Guest

    Of course, it is an 'unofficial' list in that the membership has never
    actually been ... well ... listed as such. Champ is the nominal
    recorder though, or Keeper of the List - which makes him KotLUST but he
    never admits to it willingly, although the acronym is quite grinworthy
    and your interpretation of it makes it even more so.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 20, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    That's how memorable it was.
     
    ogden, Aug 20, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    This was roughly th route I took
    http://tinyurl.com/3ahr57y
    Yeah there is that valley after the Grimsel Pass but it's very scenic and my
    brakes cooled down. I stopped there for lunch.

    To the OP, you mention Reims, that would suggest French toll roads. Forget
    it. The Burnt route is far cheaper and just as efficacious.
    http://tinyurl.com/2w4lm2j
    **** the French and their Plods and huge Peage tolls

    Then from Stresa to Venice there is a 220mi toll route or a 260mi free route

    It will be a great journey!
    I'm thinking of flying back over to Geneva and hiring a car to go play
    again.
     
    Hog, Aug 20, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    It's amazingly scenic and I loved the railway junction where you see the
    cars loaded up to head through the Simplon tunnel
    He is yet young. He will grow into that litre bike eventually.
     
    Hog, Aug 20, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    Exactly the same as ours from Giswil onwards.
    Probably a more pleasant journey trundling along in a comfy car than
    perched on a sportsbike that just wants to do a ton plus everywhere.
     
    ogden, Aug 20, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    The junction by the station in Brig-Glis was a nightmare - I was too
    busy trying to find the way (even with a satnav) to notice the
    surroundings.

    Packer and I almost ended up going down into the motorail terminal, as
    did a few cars. Lots of reversing, paddling backwards and three point
    turns before we found the right way up the mountain.

    I'd love to do it again but I'm naturally a bit wary about riding with
    enthusiasm in the Swiss Alps again.
     
    ogden, Aug 20, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    Did you problems not arise on the motorways?
    I didn't see a single Plod trap or camera in my by road journey across CH.
     
    Hog, Aug 20, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    No wonder you guys enjoyed it so much, didn't realise that was your route.
    It plain fucking rocks.

    I was stopping pretty regularly at all the scenic spots, for the first time
    ever.
     
    Hog, Aug 20, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    So at what point did they stop you?
     
    Hog, Aug 20, 2010
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