[QUOTE] ...and you accuse *him* of going the long way 'round? Where next, Perth?[/QUOTE] No, how about California? [URL]http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?[/URL] f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=california+derby&ie=UTF8&ll=52.916782,-1.497488 &spn=0.006676,0.014291&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr I reckon California to Melbourne is do-able in 20 mins.