SV650S hates the cold weather :(

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Rohit Budhwar, Dec 5, 2004.

  1. Rohit Budhwar

    Marty H Guest


    butt?

    mh
     
    Marty H, Dec 6, 2004
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    John Littler Guest

    Ron has a dyno doesn't he ? From what I've read there's a few guys who
    think he has a clue (i have no personal experience with him). Given how
    many modified bikes I've seen him taking credit for, if you paid him
    money to fix it and it's not fixed go back and say "hey man it's still
    doing the same shit, can I leave it here for two days and come back and
    find it fixed ?"

    JL
     
    John Littler, Dec 6, 2004
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  3. I paid him for a major service and to put in a jet kit, the cold weather
    problems were there before(put in just a main jet back then), and still
    there, i should have been more persistent in getting this fixed back
    then, don't think i explained the probelem properly to him. I'm taking
    it back to him on saturday to have it looked at, hopefully he'll fix it,
    whatever it is.
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 6, 2004
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  4. Will do Agg!
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 6, 2004
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    slej Guest

    big snippo


    did you try www.svdownunder.com the aussie sv forum?

    slej
    yellow peril

    remove teeth to reply
     
    slej, Dec 6, 2004
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  6. Tried that, didn't work :(
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 6, 2004
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    alx Guest

    Getting worse ...so it may not be a carb icing issue if the problem is shifting.
     
    alx, Dec 6, 2004
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    Moike Guest

    Carburettors 101.

    The vapourising fuel absorbs heat from the surroundings. A carby can
    get quite cool, and some designs are prone to icing up. Although I
    wonder what the freezing point of PULP is.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Dec 7, 2004
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    sharkey Guest

    It's not the fuel which freezes, its the water in the air passing
    through. Thus "icing up" rather than "frozen petrolling up".

    Now, personally I have my doubts about this whole theory, since
    frankly it's not real cold this time of year even in Melbourne.
    What it _is_ in the evenings is moist ... humid days leading
    on to foggy nights. And moisture plays havoc with all kinds
    of electrical things, especially high voltage ones and grotty
    terminals. It might be worth checking out the condition of
    the spark plug caps and leads and coils, the connectors to the
    CDI units and even the kill switch wiring.

    And, if that doesn't work, check and see that the ducktail isn't
    full of water! (Hi Hammo!)

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Dec 7, 2004
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    IK Guest

    Technically, Sharkey, "ice" can refer to the solid form of any substance
    which exists in fluid form under laboratory conditions, hence the
    methane_ice_polar caps on Titan and the water_ice_crust on Europa.

    The rest of the sabre you used to eviscerate Moike's point is spot on,
    though.
     
    IK, Dec 7, 2004
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    GB Guest

    AFAICS, it's not the peterol that freezes and builds up.
    The carbies get so cold that moisture in the air on it's
    way into the throat condenses, freezes and builds up. It's
    a *major* issue with carburettored small aircraft engines
    in particular, and the aviation biz spends a lot of time and
    effort on avoiding ice buildup on carburettors[1] and dealing
    with it if it does happen.

    Can't say I've ever heard of icing being an issue on bikes
    before today though.

    G
    [1] Ice forms on carbies and prevents them from properly
    carby-ing. In appropriate (inappropriate?) conditions,
    it will also form on wings (and even propellors!) and
    prevent them from doing things like, oh, flying...
     
    GB, Dec 7, 2004
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    sharkey Guest

    Personally, I feel this is an incorrect usage: I'd prefer
    "solid methane polar caps" just as I'd rather the Tritonians
    didn't refer to our atmosphere as "nitrogen steam".

    But then the Yanks still do things in miles and inches, so
    my personal opinions on the advancement of science aren't
    really persuasive (even on Usenet!)

    -----sharks

    PS: http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/pdfs/fueltable.pdf suggests
    that 'gasoline' freezes at -40°C.
     
    sharkey, Dec 7, 2004
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    Conehead Guest

    That would be the point at which it becomes solid, wouldn't it?
     
    Conehead, Dec 7, 2004
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    G-S Guest

    But... But... my ZRX doesn't _have_ a de-icing system... that's only on the
    euro versions!

    G-S
     
    G-S, Dec 7, 2004
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Let's leave Christians out of this.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 7, 2004
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    better not go down the GOR then

    ;)
     
    Johnnie5, Dec 7, 2004
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  17. Its in the workshop right now, Ron's gonna buzz me tomorrow and give me
    an update.........it used to play up in <10c, now its getting
    worse.....can't wait to get this fixed.
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 7, 2004
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    GB Guest

    I threw the question of carby ice up in the aus.aviation
    newsgroup last night - if anyone's gonna know about ice, it
    will be those folks.

    True to form, there's quite a number of informative and
    potentially useful responses. Concensus seems to be that
    yes, carby ice *is* an entirely likely culprit.

    The thread is titled "carby ice at sea level (or thereabouts)..."

    -or- google groups: http://evilurl.com/VAGINABURGERBOOB


    Personal favourite: this quote from RT:

    RT> Yes, you can get carby ice.
    RT> You get it on the ground, you pull into the nearest pub.
    RT> You get it in the air, you crash into the nearest pub.


    HTH,

    G
     
    GB, Dec 7, 2004
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    sharkey Guest

    Not in summer, anyway. Those minibuses are _fierce_ ...

    -----sharks never forget
     
    sharkey, Dec 7, 2004
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    G-S Guest

    Are you talking about the K-Tric? The Kawasaki Throttle Response something
    something?

    Coz that's not a de-icer :)

    The de-icer is a seperate thing...


    G-S
     
    G-S, Dec 8, 2004
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