SV650S hates the cold weather :(

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Rohit Budhwar, Dec 5, 2004.

  1. Hi,

    I really need help with this, my bike runs great when the weather's
    warm, as soon as it gets cold, its a different story. The bike stutters
    and stalls while downshifting, upshifting, the revs dies for a second or
    two before picking up again with a jerk.

    This happened today went for a ride along the GOR ( or tried to ), the
    bike ran great uptill Torquay, then it got cloudy, the weather started
    getting a little nippy and the problem started........ I stalled twice
    before i gave up and headed back to Melbourne, didn't wanna have her
    stall on me in a corner and end up crashing! I've heard the carbed SVs
    have problems with carb icing, the bike runs better after i put a water
    treatment thingy into the tank, but thats a pain in the butt!

    I heard Suzuki offered carby heaters as an option in Oz and the UK, how
    would i go about getting one of these from them, will i have to pay for
    it (hope not)?

    If this doesn't work, i'll end up selling the bike, its takes all the
    fun outta the ride, totally ruined my fukkin day. :(

    Please help fellas
    regards,

    Rohit
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 5, 2004
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  2. Rohit Budhwar

    Johnnie5 Guest

    carb icing occurs with constant throttle at constant speed
    is this what is happening to you ??

    it is more likely that your bike is running a little lean
    and when the temp drops the air is more dense (more oxygen)
    so you have these probs

    a minor adjustment of the mixture could be all that is required
     
    Johnnie5, Dec 5, 2004
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  3. Yep i checked up all the symptoms of carb icing on the web and my bike
    has each and every one of them. As soon as it got hot again today, when
    i was on my way back home, she started running great!

    I'll try messing with the mixture, but i've had the mechanics look at it
    before, it keeps happening :(
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 5, 2004
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  4. Rohit Budhwar

    Johnnie5 Guest

    and which mechanics would this be ???

    did you tell them exactly what the problems are you are having ??
    did they question you at all as to where /when it happens ??

    or was this the dealer with the 2nd year grease monkey ??

    what did they actually do ??
     
    Johnnie5, Dec 5, 2004
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    Conehead Guest

    How did it run in July when the weather was warm?
     
    Conehead, Dec 5, 2004
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  6. Crappy, but now its getting worse, used to be a only on <10c days, now
    its happening when its a little warmer!
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 5, 2004
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  7. Mechanics would be :-
    1) Peter Stevens in dandenong where i bought the bike from.
    2) Ron at Balls in sunshine.
    Started happening after i had the bike piped and rejetted, cranking up
    the idle helped a little,but not much. I spent a heap of time on the SV
    forums figuring it out, then it turns out, a whole heap of people have
    had this problem on carbed Svs.
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 5, 2004
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  8. Rohit Budhwar

    Johnnie5 Guest

    hmm so bike was ok before you had the pipe and rejet ??

    doesnt that tell you something ??????

    as i said before you have a prob with mixture

    want it right then get it on a dyno and get a mixture chart
     
    Johnnie5, Dec 5, 2004
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  9. the problem is it only happens in the cold, so its kinda hard to
    replicate, always been kinda sunny when i go to the workshop. I told 'em
    everything.....usually when its in for a service, i get the bike back,
    i t runs great then at night when it gets colder, things start going
    funny, revs drop when i try to shift after i've been travelling at a
    constant speed eg. freeway, i sputters a bit then kicks in with a nasty
    jerk or just stalls.
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 5, 2004
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  10. Haha, thought you'd get a laugh outta that ;)
    ok will do, who do you recommend for it? Should i dig into it myself,
    i'm no mech whiz at bikes, thats the only thing that scares me, i might
    **** it up even further.
     
    Rohit Budhwar, Dec 5, 2004
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  11. Rohit Budhwar

    Johnnie5 Guest

    based on your other post it does sound like carb icing but
    as you said , it was ok before the pipe and jetting went on

    get it on a dyno that can do mixture graph and tell them what probs you are
    having

    i'm in syd so dont know anyone

    anyone bueller ? bueller ?
     
    Johnnie5, Dec 5, 2004
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    Dale Porter Guest

    Dynobike in Moorabbin is a name that regularly crops up. I haven't dealt with them myself but a few
    people I know have and highly reccommend them.

    Ph: 9553-0018
     
    Dale Porter, Dec 5, 2004
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    Marty H Guest

    Race Replica Motorcycles
    Shop 6 / 535 Geelong Rd
    Brooklyn VIC 3025
    9318 0004

    I have heard good things also, had the viffer booked in but had to cancell,
    was going to cost $110 plus plugs if needed

    Marty
     
    Marty H, Dec 5, 2004
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  14. the problem is it only happens in the cold, so its kinda hard to
    So leave it with them overnight and ask them to get someone to ride
    the bike home at night to see the problem..
     
    James Rolfe (Agg - OCAU), Dec 5, 2004
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    Smiley Guest

    when it gets cold and it starts going funny put the chock on and see if it
    then starts to work ok.
    if it does then it is most likely to be mixure.

    Smiley
     
    Smiley, Dec 5, 2004
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    GB Guest

    There's your problem right there (I'm a thousand miles
    away, and even *I* know that!!!)

    There's the other problem right there. Too much rice.


    G, no rice.
     
    GB, Dec 5, 2004
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    alx Guest

    HAHAHHA.

    This must be Melbourne in December!


    HAHAAAA.
     
    alx, Dec 6, 2004
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    Smee Guest

    its fuggin 30 degrees outside!
     
    Smee, Dec 6, 2004
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  19. Rohit Budhwar

    alx Guest

    I'd definitely also consider water contamination and spark plug shorting as issues to check on SV's.

    Both issues well-documented elsewhere on SV sites but briefly:-

    1) if drainage hole from filler tank blocked, water gets in tank when unlocked to put fuel in.

    fix: check for any kinks in drainage hose, can be crimped if putting tank on.

    drain tank/carby bowls and run cup of meths every tank for a few tanks to get rid of water.


    2) front spark plug recess can fill with water (washing or wet days) and plug cap shorts.

    3) a general good state of tune is assumed...no point fixing issues that mask a poor state of tune.

    4) Live in a region with recognised reliable summer climate :)

    alx
     
    alx, Dec 6, 2004
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    X-No-archive: yes
    That's one. How many more "plugs" do you have to give them?
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Dec 6, 2004
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