Suzuki LTZ250 electrical issue

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by scammer, Jan 8, 2007.

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    scammer Guest

    Had electrical problem w/ 2004 Suzuki LTZ 250 quad, need some help.
    Seemed to have weak battery on last camp trip, so I let my son ride
    it near trailer, planned to buy new battery on return home. Later in
    day he was starting it, I was next to him and it started clicking then
    smelled electrical wire smoking. The wiring bundle had one wire
    basically vaporized.

    So the question is what is likely caused this?
    And how to repair it?

    I see it as one of three reasons. Bad battery somehow sent surge, or
    a bad starter that was the real problem from the beginning, or the
    wire got a bit hot, melted some insulation then shorted to another
    wire.

    To fix I plan to put new battery in, and hopefully easy replacement
    of that wire bundle that goes into the engine. Don't know how easy
    that is get to the connections at engine end, has a cover I have not
    removed yet. And I don't want to smoke another wire bundle if the
    started or solenoid are the culprits.

    Sorry if this long winded, trying to give enough info to make sense
    of it.

    Thanks, Scammer
     
    scammer, Jan 8, 2007
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  2. "Bad" batteries do not send "surges", but bad presidents do.

    A shorted starter (or one that is jammed and won't turn) would melt the
    starter cable, but the starter cable isn't bundled with the rest of the
    wire harness.

    If you have a poor connection on one wire, the connection will cause
    the wire to heat and it may melt the insulation on an adjacent ground
    wire (the ground wire is probably a black wire, and it may have a white
    tracer) and then you've got a classic short circuit that melts
    everything it can.

    Unwrap the wire harness, find all points where the burnt wire touched
    other wires, examine all plastic connectors in that circuit for melted
    plastic, replace wires as necessary, and check the resistance to ground
    of the new wire.

    You can easily make a fool of yourself using an ohmmeter, so don't just
    *ass*ume that
    the test current is flowing through the circuit that you are interested
    in.

    I once thought I had a short circuit on a T-28 Trojan (that's a
    propellor-driven US Air Force trainer, not a condom) and I used my ohm
    meter to try and find it. It turned out that I was reading backwards
    through the commutator on the generator to ground...
     
    Potage St. Germaine, Jan 8, 2007
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  3. Good one sir !!! :)
    If I were looking for a short, I'd probably first check for places
    where the harness was getting chafed. Check under the tank, at
    the steering head and entering the head and taillight shells
    if it's a dualsport.

    Also look for any really bad wiring done by previous owners.
    Shade tree mechanics often do some pretty funky electrical work
    using squeeze on connectors and removing accessories by just
    snipping wires. If it was done by a teenager, be very, very afraid.

    Best of luck.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Jan 10, 2007
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