Suzuki GSX 250 1980 stalls and idle speed drops to zero

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by brett68, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. brett68

    brett68 Guest

    I am a newbie riding a Suzuki GSX 250 1980 and have been having
    problems with it stalling after a few kms of riding. It only seems to
    happen when its climbing. Slight backfire then a loss of power. If
    it's hot the oil light comes on and it won't start again until you've
    waited five minutes or so. If its cold it can be kept running when it
    starts stalling by dropping back a gear or stopping and starting
    again. Today I spent my hard earned on a professional mechanics
    skills, he cleaned the carbs replaced a nut that some amateur had
    plonked in there and got them running together, it has a little more
    acceleration but now the stalling problem is exactly the same. After
    the tune up I went for a short run to see if the problem had
    disappeared and now when it's idling it drops to zero and dies. The
    mechanic reckons I may have a faulty cdi unit. I might be pretty
    ignorant but does anyone here think the tune up wasn't quite right?
    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
     
    brett68, Jan 31, 2007
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  2. A pound to a penny the valves are burning or burned out, and the valve
    clearances way too tight. These bikes were notorious for it.
     
    chateau.murray, Jan 31, 2007
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  3. CDI units are mysterious block boxes that usually either work or they
    don't work. If they quit working, they rarely start working again.

    I have had experience with two CDI's that did act up before they
    finally quit working altogether though.

    But, you might check all the wiring connectors from the fuse to the
    ignition switch, through the kill switch on to the coil and to the CDI
    unit. Also, check any connectors associated with the pulser coil on
    the end of the crankshaft. It signals the CDI to fire the spark plugs.

    Like TOG said, check the valves for the correct clearances. If the
    valves don't have any clearance, you'll lose compression when the
    engine is hot. Engines won't run once the compression drops below a
    certain point.

    You might be just running on one cylinder and the engine struggles and
    then the other cylinder quits and you have the problem of hard
    starting which you mentioned until the engine cools off.

    But hard starting when hot is also a symptom of lean idle mixture,
    Your idle jets and idle mixture ports might be getting plugged up with
    gum and varnish.

    I recommend putting 3 or 4 ounces of a clear carburetor cleaner like
    Berryman B-12 or GumOut or STP into a full tank of gasoline and riding
    to see if that cleans out all the little passageways and ports inside
    your carbs.

    If you can't find any of the carburetor cleaners I mentioned, try
    mineral spirits (paint thinner in the USA) or a mixture of xylene,
    methyl alcohol (like methyl ethyl ketone), acetone, toulene, etc.
     
    Potage St. Germaine, Jan 31, 2007
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  4. brett68

    Ron Seiden Guest

    "...a mixture of xylene, methyl alcohol (like methyl ethyl ketone), acetone,
    toluene, etc." also known as "lacquer thinner", available in the paint
    department instead of the automotive department. It even smells just like
    the Berryman's carb cleaner.
     
    Ron Seiden, Feb 1, 2007
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